Contradictory allocation behaviour compared to documentation about bytes HOT 9 CLOSED

The documentation on this could probably be improved, but the capacity that the BufMut trait talks about is for cases where the buffer cannot be resized at all. Types such as Vec<u8> pretend that they have infinite capacity in the BufMut trait.

I agree that the wording here is confusing, but I think it is the right behavior.

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Is there some API which basically forces me to make reallocations explicit? I would be happy to see if I can improve the documentation a little bit when I have understood it better.

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I don't think we provide that, no.

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Hmm, OK - thank you.

I was using a BytesMut to store data received from the network, split it off and freeze it to send a Bytes over to another thread for compression and logging. I tested it first and it seemed to work, probably because there were always times when all Bytes handles had been dropped - but in the real project, I get lots of very small data packages which probably means there are always some Bytes handles alive.

One idea to deal with this was to have two BytesMut buffers, when one would get full I could switch to the other buffer while the remaining Bytes from the first buffer get dropped. Then I could move back to the first buffer once there is nothing pointing to it anymore, and vice versa. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be an API available to check whether a BytesMut has any live Bytes pointing into its storage. Would you be open to adding such an API, or is my usecase already achievable some other way?

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An API for getting the refcount is reasonable enough.

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I gave it some thought and for my usecase, an API like #686 seems more usable - it doesn't expose implementation details like refcount, and it gives a cheap way to re-use the original implementation. Do you think that approach is sensible? If so I'd be happy to bring it to the finish line. Thanks!

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I've thought about this too. Thanks for posting @shahn! In fact, the reason I first looked into the source code for this crate was because I didn't understand the conditions that cause allocation after reading the documentation. The following snippet from the docs is accurate, but it's not a complete picture of the BytesMut allocation strategy and the constraints it assumes.

BytesMut’s BufMut implementation will implicitly grow its buffer as necessary. However, explicitly reserving the required space up-front before a series of inserts will be more efficient.

In particular, it's not clear that a BytesMut instance is most efficient when the Bytes instances it produces are short lived and, critically, all dropped before the entire buffer is filled, allowing the buffer to be reclaimed and filled again (please let me know if I've missed somewhere that's documented). It does not act as a ring buffer, filling in the empty space at the beginning of the buffer while a Bytes is still referencing the end of the buffer.

This is a subtle distinction, but it's important to understand when choosing to use BytesMut because if your data is received continuously and your Bytes instances are not dropped before more data arrives then the buffer is never reclaimed and a new one is allocated every time it's filled. To be clear, I think this is the correct behavior for BytesMut because it's making a specific trade off (i.e. less memory usage and bookkeeping in exchange for allocation when data is received continuously). It just wasn't clear to me when reading documentation.

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I think what you explained about the behaviour is also what I've learned from docs/reading code, hence the idea to use two BytesMuts and alternate between them.

One thing that confused me initially was that some old docs which are however still readily found using web search explicitly say that BytesMut doesn't implicitly grow its buffer - but that went away once I looked at the right docs.

I noticed large memory usage from the OS pov, perhaps there is some fragmentation issue going on with frequent allocations of different sizes, really not sure. It could be fragmentation because the messages I receive have vastly different size. This seems to be better when switching between two buffers using the patch from #686.

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Closing with #686.

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