Hey
I just wanted you to know that the issue of WSM not loading in FreeBSD has been fixed by doing as you suggested and building fvwm from source. All is well now. Thanks!

Hi, more often than not, especially at first login after power on or reboot, I experience an annoying freeze of the Splash Screen: the "wheel" to the right of "Starting Up..." stops rotating, the mouse pointer turns to cross hairs, Ctrl+C or mouse click does nothing, eventually after a number of alternate Esc / mouse clicks the Splash Screen goes away.
As I'm quite unfamiliar with Fvwm (i.e. I haven't got the faintest idea how to do that), I wonder whether there's a way to see what's happening behind that Splash Screen, or alternatively just get rid of it.
Thanks

Hi,

First of all, I love NsCDE. Thank you for the effort of creating such a nice WM.

Issue: Ctrl + A (select all) is not working for me. It moves the cursor to the left in most cases.

Q1: I noticed there is no clipboard, some applications are unable to use (or missing) the clipboard functionality. Is this correct? How to solve this?
Q2: I'm currently closing windows with double click on the menu (left top) in the title bar, is this the correct way?
Q3: Firefox is always starting on my left window (iso the main window), can I change this behavior?
Q4: Screenshot button is not triggering any screen record app?

Hint: Please, disable Silent Key Tab A S hotkey or move to another hotkey combo. Since the Shift+Tab action is needed for programming (like fixing a small indent issue).

Thanks!

Regards,
Melroy vd Berg

Hi, I realyl like the icon theme and tweaks to QT and GTK that this DE applies while in use.

I was wondering how I could have those things without using nscde, it is kind of unstable at the moment.

i tried just copying the icons to another pc but they do not seem to be useable that way.

Hey there,

I was wondering whether there was any way of disabling the switching between different pages of a Workspace via the mouse. It, unfortunately, frequently happens that I accidently switch to a different page by having my mouse be too close to the edge of the screen. I was unfortunately unable to find any information regarding this in the documentation.

Environment

• Stock Fedora 31 installation
• NsCDE installed, all settings defaults
• single user account, not sudoer (i.e. I set an "admin" (root) password during install)

Steps to reproduce

1. Open the system dialog.
2. Select Suspend, Reboot, Shutdown, or other actions handled by nscde-acpi
3. Click 'Confirm'

Expected Result

System restarts, shuts down, suspends, etc. as requested.

Actual Result

Nothing. It's a silent failure with zero user feedback. It just... doesn't work.

Executing the relevant command by directly invoking nscde-acpi directly works fine.

Root cause

The SysActionDialog script executes the nscde-acpi wrapper prefixing the command w/ sudo even if it doesn't need to.

Implementation Suggestion

Having to start using sudo just for this isn't a great user experience. But on a modern Fedora install like this I don't need to have sudo just to suspend w/ systemd. (And given that systemd is all but universal on Linux nowadays, anyone still using the legacy methods is probably used to doing lots and lots of manual config. 😉 )

It will make the nscde-acpi wrapper slightly more complex, but it might not be a bad idea to reduce the use of sudo only to what's strictly required. That should improve the default experience, not to mention make it easier for people who won't or can't give sudo to the user accounts.

And no, FreeBSD won't be handled out of the box, but we're used to that too. 😆

(Bonus points: add a "lock + sleep" option that calls Xscreensaver before calling the wrapper.)

Firstly, I love NsCDE!! It's fast, clean, and beautiful!

Is there a way to write an extension to apply NsCDE's color themes to other programs? I use the kitty terminal, and it would be awesome to integrate it with NsCDE's colors. Thanks for any help!

Those of you old enough to remember xfm (X File Manager) may also recall a fork of that long ago which was made to work with motif, called moxfm.

Nine years ago, I found the source for moxfm and threw it here on github.

It still compiles to this day, by:

apt-get install libxmu-dev libxmu-headers libmotif-dev xutils-dev
xmkmf -a
make
sudo make install

(Package names will vary across different Linux distributions/BSDs).

The end result looks like the following screens shot attached. You can see I've found a bug in moxfm in the XTerm behind the file manager which I'll fix in due course.

Buggy as hell, I'm sure. But might just about fit with CDE to be nostalgic for some! :)

Hello!

Have been trying NsCDE, nice work, thnx ! :)

I was wondering if there is a way to scale up the size of the panel, because it is a bit small on the high dpi screens of today. There is a script 'run_scaled' that allows individual applications to do this via xpra. Don't know if this is possible for the panel. Is this an fvwm module?

Jos v Riswick

With the following commit d3c53c1 you added duplicate functionality of Menu to Multi_key. For example on my Thinkpad I use ISO_Level3_Shift (AltGr / Right Alt) to have some special functionality for Umlauts:

! Provide Umlaut support with altGr+u, altGr+o, altGr+a or with altGr+shift
keycode  26 = e E EuroSign cent EuroSign cent
keycode  30 = u U udiaeresis Udiaeresis udiaeresis Udiaeresis
keycode  32 = o O odiaeresis Odiaeresis odiaeresis Odiaeresis
keycode  38 = a A adiaeresis Adiaeresis adiaeresis Adiaeresis
keycode  39 = s S ssharp ssharp ssharp

With your commit this functionality isn't working anymore. I would like to ask for help if you might have any idea why or any idea about a workaround to support xmodmap.

So unfortunately, the fix for issue #5 appears to have broken the dialog slightly.

As of 9fe7dc0493, the value of the drop down does not appear to be updated when a selection is made.

Making a selection and pressing "Confirm" still works, and indeed upon bringing up the dialog again the drop-down now displays the previous selection. This behavior is not observed when making a selection and pressing "Dismiss".

Hi,

The following is explained in the header of /opt/NsCDE/config/NsCDE-Keybindings.conf:

# Contexts:
#     R = Root Window                 rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
#     W = Application Window          rIrrrr<---------^rrrrr
#     F = Frame Corners               rrrrrr[13TTTT642]rrrrr
#     S = Frame Sides                 rIrrrr[wwwwwwwww]rrrrr
#     T = Title Bar                   rrrrrr[wwwwwwwww]rrrrr
#     I = Icon                        rIrrrrv_________>rrrrr
#                                     rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

But I'm missing the context letter 'A' meaning in the list of explanations. Most likely 'A' in context also mean 'ANY'? Example:

Silent Key Left A S CursorMove -1 0

• Silent -> supress errors
• Key Left -> Left key
• A -> ?
• S -> Shift
• CursorMove -1 0 -> the command

Ps. Also the ASCII art on the right side, is a vague for me.

Regards,
Melroy

I get an error saying "Uh-oh. Something's gone wrong"

You are quite talented and creative with python. Could we get a dtwmrc parser for porting our settings over?

Hi, it happened to me several times to shut down the system, whereas I just wanted to log out from NsCDE, just because I had shut it down the day before, so "Shutdown" was the last system action saved in $HOME/.SysActionDialog.lastval, and I inadvertently clicked "Confirm" without choosing the "Logout" action from the drop-down list first.
I have therefore taken the liberty of modifying /opt/NsCDE/lib/scripts/SysActionDialog so that $HOME/.SysActionDialog.lastval is always set to 1 (Logoff); this way, if I want to do something different, I have to choose it explicitly from the drop-down list, and that's perfectly fine for me.
Maybe there are other NsCDE users who would prefer such behavior, so I thought that the Logout dialog could be enriched with some sort of "Remember last action" checkbox.
This is a just a simple suggestion based on a personal experience, if you think it's not worth adding it to the ToDo list for the next release I'll understand.
Thanks

First of all thanks for creating NsCDE.

Setup

• Resolution: 2560x1440
• FVWM version: 2.6.9
• NsCDE version: fa987b4
• Font: Liberation Sans / Mono

Issue

I use NsCDE on the above setup and detected that some dialogs doesn't show the full text. Especially menu bars or parts in windows like the Style Manager. I've attached a screenshot which I hope could help to see the issue.

If additional questions are needed feel free to ask.

Idea

I expect it has something to do with the resolution, DPI and font size. But I'm not sure what would be the best way to debug it or set the correct values to make it look better.

$ env | grep DPI
NSCDE_FONT_DPI=144
DPI=96
NSCDE_DPI=96

$ xrdb -query -all | grep -i dpi
Xft.dpi:        144

Hi again,
I'd like to report another very small thing I noticed.

Premise
Caja is a Gtk3 file manager (part of the Mate Desktop Environment) whose default layout is a classic single pane + sidepane on the left, but its single pane may be optionally split vertically into a dual pane; as for its available view modes, they are large icons ("Icon View"), small icons ("Compact View"), and detailed list ("List View").
When items are selected in List View, $HOME/.themes/NsCDE/gtk-3.20/widgets.css inverts their color, i.e. 'background-color' becomes '@fg_text', and 'color' in turn becomes '@bg_text'.

Small Thing I Noticed
Having split the pane, chosen List View in one of the panes, and selected one or more items in that List View pane, if you click on the other pane the previously selected item(s) disappear.
By "disappear" I mean that it looks like the 'background-color' property is reset to '@bg_text', but not the 'color' property, making the text indistinguishable; only the icon(s) remain visible.

Quick and Dirty Workaround
First, I checked that this happens only with the NsCDE Gtk theme; having done that, I went through $HOME/.themes/NsCDE/gtk-3.20/widgets.css to try and find out which selector/property springs into action when you click on the other pane, but that file is really HUGE and my knowledge of CSS really limited, so eventually I gave up.
As a quick and dirty workaround I created a very simple $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css to just reinstate the selected items color, like so

.caja-notebook treeview.view:selected,
.caja-notebook treeview.view:selected:focus {
background-color: @fg_text;
color: @bg_text;
}

This way they just don't disappear anymore ;-)

I'm posting this FYI, just in case it may help.
Cheers

I installed this on arch, later quit using it due to instablity, but it seems to have messed with my fonts now. They look off, as if I were on the wrong resolution or they were stretched. Any ideas on how to reverse this?

Any plans to support XDG? At least the following env variables:

XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=/etc/xdg/
XDG_DATA_HOME=/home/myuser/.local/share/
XDG_CONFIG_HOME=/home/myuser/.config/
XDG_SEAT=seat0
XDG_VIDEOS_DIR=/home/myuser/video/
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=tty
XDG_PICTURES_DIR=/home/myuser/pics/
XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR=/home/myuser/
XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR=/home/myuser/
XDG_MUSIC_DIR=/home/myuser/audio/
XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR=/home/myuser/
XDG_CACHE_HOME=/home/myuser/.cache/
XDG_SESSION_CLASS=user
XDG_DESKTOP_DIR=/home/myuser/
XDG_VTNR=1
XDG_SESSION_ID=1
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/1000
XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR=/home/myuser/doc/
XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/home/myuser/.local/share/

E.g. currently $FVWM_USERDIR is used instead of telling the user to use $XDG_CONFIG_HOME. Also the default value $HOME/.NsCDE doesn't take XDG into account. I would say a more compatible option would be to set default to $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/nscde/ and just ensure, that $XDG_CONFIG_HOME contained a sane widespread value - I'm myself using for my FVWM config export XDG_CONFIG_HOME="${XDG_CONFIG_HOME-$HOME/.config/}" and so on for other XDG directories.

Btw. great work this whole NsCDE, thanks.

Hi,
sorry to bother you again about this, but I tried to reboot my MX Linux desktop from NsCDE and received again (in)famous error:
"System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate"
It look like it's necessary modify "f_reboot" the same way you did for "f_poweroff" in that script; I'm sorry for not noticing and reporting this before, the fact is I don't reboot my desktop very often.
While I was at it, I tried the other /opt/NsCDE/libexec/nscde-acpi options and seen that for 'suspend', 'hibernate' and 'hybrid-suspend' the userid should be allowed to 'sudo' the corresponding 'pm-utils', so I noticed a small discrepancy between the documentation and the actual NsCDE directories contents: chapter "8.1. System Tree Layout" says that in 'share/doc/examples' one could find examples for 'sudo' those 'pm-utils', but I couldn't find any.
That's not a problem at all for me, but I'd like to report it to you anyway, in case such small discrepancy wasn't intended. (and unless I'm missing something, or course)
Thanks

Hi, I wonder whether Fvwm or NsCDE can command Evince to behave.
I like that application, but it hasn't got a tabbed view, which means that every document has to be opened in a separate window; now, my problem is that when it comes to opening new windows Evince has a mind of its own: each new window gets an initial different size, and in some cases they've been created larger than the screen(!)
Needless to say, there's no option in Evince (at least, in the version that comes with my distribution) to set an initial window size.
I tried NsCDE's GeoDB, but I found out that it only worked for the first Evince window, other windows still get their initial size at random.
I checked the documentation of Fvwm's Style directive, but I only found things like MinWindowSize and MaxWindowSize, if I'm not mistaken there isn't any style option to set the initial size of a window.
Based on your experience, is there anything you can suggest?
Thanks

The CDE bottom bar has some larger icons for clock, calender, theyre pretty spacy.

Since you're using fvwm for a base I imagine this would be possible, the idea is makinga custom tray app/fork of stalone tray that can become apart of the bottom bar, looking just like another icon and being interacted with like a system tray. It could be like a widget.

People may oppose this, the cde crowd don't lile trays, however stalonetray is an eye sore and sticks out like a sore thumb in its current, and default configuration and theres just noway around that.

unrelated,
Thanks for the excellent DE I have started to move my other CDE comptuers over to it, although I prefer cde, at least his way I dont need to run rpcbind on the already insecure linux desktop

so i tried installing Nscde on Void Linux ived tried installing it but i cant because i get this error message " Error: command or program "cpp" as NsCDE dependency is missing.

Error: Missing required commands or packages: cpp. Install them and run Installer.ksh again" i tried to install cpp but i cant find it any where in the repo but if you know how to install cpp on void let me know.

Hello there i installed nscde with this guide on freebsd with minor modifications (such as python version). My problem is programs such as the terminal, firefox, alacritty, callendar, file manager, print manager, some of the options in style manager (not all), text editor, multimedia, help, etc... does not execute when pressed on panel or called from Exec.

Hello,

so I've only just found out about this project and thought it was pretty cool; something, however, has been somewhat annoying, and that is the fact that whenever I choose the options of using the GTK integration options in the Style Manager, certain applications receive black fields where there really shouldn't be any. This is especially noticable on Firefox or Thunderbird as you can see on the screenshot below.

This does not occur when I uncheck the GTK integration boxes – but then obviously I will also not have the theme on any GTK application, which is a tad annoying. I have tried changing some colours to white in the CSS files found in the .themes/gtk-xx directories and changing the gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme variable in the GTK-3 settings.ini file from 1 to 0, but that didn't change anything either.

Does anyone have this issue as well and perhaps some tips to mitigate this?

Hi
Just built rc24 on Debian stable and testing amd64, did no try on other arch yet, but... the builds went ok, but FVWM starts instead of NsCDE. Any clue, please?
regards
pavroo

Greetings,
I have run the scripts on Ubuntu, but for some reason the Workspace selector on the panel is blank.
I've looked at some of the configurations, but have been unable to resolve.
Is there specific script to run or log to look at?

Thanks.

First of all, thank you for the great effort clearly put into this project!

I'm getting a NOAPP message when I try to launch anything related to the web browser from the main panel (documentation or right click on the clock icon)

My enviroment has a default web browser - other application can call the browser, my $BROWSER is also set.

I saw that NsCDE/share/fallback/app-catalog/www-browser has a list of binary names, my particular browser is not on the list.
I've edited the file to include it, restarted the enviroment but didn't see a change

Hi.
Thanks for this by the way, it is amazing.
After a few tweaks here and there I got this to work on FreeBSD 12 with Qt5. I am having an issue, however, with the workspace switcher not loading at all. I tried altering some settings under "manage workspaces" but those setting don't stick and upon reload the switcher still does not load. Any clues? I don't know what files to show here as I am very new to this desktop. Thanks

I've used CDE; would like to try NsCDE (first as a second X session.) What happens is below.

[email protected]:~$ exec /opt/NsCDE/bin/nscde
xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
Warning: DPI "" is not recognized as X DPI specification. Setting DPI to 96
Warning: cannot read /home/d/.NsCDE/Xdefaults file
Warning: cannot find /home/d/.NsCDE/app-defaults directory
Notice: /home/d/.NsCDE/Xset.conf does not exist
[fvwm][main]: <<ERROR>> can't open display

Unable to run wine in NsCDE:

$ wine

ERROR: ld.so: object '/opt/NsCDE/lib/XOverrideFontCursor.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64): ignored.

It's a 64-bit so file, that always gets preloaded somehow, but Wine is often still used (for good reasons) as a 32-bit binary.

Please, fix!

Regards,
Melroy

As a laptop user, it was quite frustrating to find that this didn't work with my volume or brightness keys. Also, my laptop doesn't lock when I close it. Closing it seems to just turn the screen off.

Steps to reproduce

1. Open Style Manager. Select the "Backdrop" control.
2. Check "Use a photo or picture"
3. Click "Add"
4. Navigate to a directory in which there is at least one subdirectory with at least one space character ' ' in the path. (Other whitespace has not been tested.)
5. Attempt to navigate into the subdirectory with space character(s) in their path.

Expected Outcome

Subdirectory contents are displayed.

Actual Outcome

Subdirectory path is displayed in the "Selected file" input. Pressing "OK" when the dialog is in this state closes the dialog, but otherwise produces no obvious effect.

Test Environment

Fedora 33 on aarch64, fully updated as of this issue's reporting date.

Hey there,

I hate having to open another issue here, but, somehow, the front panel has disappeared. I was simply changing the theme in the Style Manager to something different when, suddenly, the front panel simply disappeared. Reverting the theme didn't help, neither did restarting and attempting to use the several methods of toggling the front panel (such as Shift+Esc).
Any ideas what might've caused this?

Hi there,
I recently discovered NsCDE thanks to a link in the Wikipedia article about the original CDE; I've been using it regularly for about a month and appreciate its consistency and extensive documentation, which are indeed not so common.
So it's with an absolutely positive approach that I'd like to report a few, really small things that I've noticed here and there; I see them not as "issues", just little suggestions, but I don't know where else to report them so I'm posting them here.
Thanks for your attention.

In no particular order:

1. $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini
   When I switched back to Xfce after setting up NsCDE, I noticed that everything had gone dark, even though I never chose any Gtk dark theme for Xfce; after much head scratching, I noticed this directive
   gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme = 1
   in file $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini.
   I was quite sure I hadn't set that myself; to verify that I created a new test user, checked that no such settings.ini file existed for that user, started NsCDE, and after that I did find that file with that directive in it.
   I switched back to my regular user and changed that directive's value from "1" to "0": Xfce adopted my favorite light theme again, while I didn't notice any changes in NsCDE.
   To avoid confusion, if that directive is not necessary for NsCDE I'd suggest to remove it, and if it is instead to document it in the FAQ and/or Manual.

2. $HOME/.themes/NsCDE/gtk-3.20/widgets.css
   When clicking a toolbar button of a Gtk application I noticed an horizontal flickering of the toolbar: the farther on the right the button, the wider the flickering (e.g. the 'Exit' button of the Geany text editor)
   Eventually I found out that commenting out the 'padding' property (line 298) of selector
   'button:active, button:checked'
   in file $HOME/.themes/NsCDE/gtk-3.20/widgets.css stopped that annoying flickering.
   (I am not a Gtk themer and my knowledge of CSS is really basic, there may other/better ways of achieving this)

3. /opt/NsCDE/libexec/nscde-acpi
   The Linux distribution I'm currently using is MX, which is based upon Debian stable, has systemd installed for compatibility, but doesn't use it as its init system; as a result of this, /opt/NsCDE/libexec/nscde-acpi returned (in)famous error
   "System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate"
   when trying to shut down the system.
   One solution I found on the Internet is to check the output of command
   ps -p 1 -o comm=
   which in my case returns "init", to determine whether systemd is actually being used as init system or not.

4. NsCDE-Keybindings.conf Manual chapter
   I wanted to remove some of NsCDE's default key bindings, but since I'm completely unfamiliar with Fvwm I didn't know how to do that; after unsuccessful search on the Internet I did find the very extremely simple answer (prepend a "-") in NsCDE's FAQ, which I (obviously) hadn't read in the first place.
   I'd suggest to add that information to the Manual chapter for clarity.

5. Install Icon
   I added some existing application entries to subpanels, but in one case I wanted to change the Name and Icon; although I could change those values in the Install Icon window, those changes were not saved and I eventually had to edit the files $HOME/.NsCDE/NsCDE-Subpanels.conf and $HOME/.NsCDE/Subpanels.actions manually.
   I wonder whether this is the intended behavior, or a small bug, or I just missed something.

6. $HOME/.NsCDE/Subpanels.actions
   After subpanels customization with "Install Icon", I noticed that this entry
   S8,Entry,PCManFM,,NsCDE/32x32/apps/system-file-manager.png,pcmanfm --no-desktop
   which is present in file /opt/NsCDE/config/Subpanels.actions, had disappeared from $HOME/.NsCDE/Subpanels.actions
   (maybe because its "Entry" keyword is not uppercase, like all the others in that file?)

7. Compositing Manager and Fvwm window resize/remove
   I noticed that if a compositing manager is running, Fvwm doesn't show the 'X Y' coordinates box while moving a window, or the 'Width x Height' box while resizing a window; since there's already a paragraph in the Manual about compositing manager, maybe this information could be added.

Hi
I have build and installed the latest rc21 on Debian stable & testing i686, amd64 and armhf.
The workspace switcher shows up on amd64 desktops only, but doesn't do that on i686 and armhf.
Any clue, please?
Regards
pavroo

Hi, I like the Broica 4 colour scheme a lot, but there's one application that seems to dislike it: the VirtualBox GUI (see screenshot)

I guess that's because of Broica's white text, because using a theme with black text (e.g. Solaris) the same window looks fine.

It's not a big problem, just a bit of a nuisance: whenever I want to use VirtualBox I have to either switch theme or switch Desktop Environment, but anyway I'm curious: why is this happening? As far as I know, VirtualBox' GUI is based on Qt, and all other Qt-based applications I use (KeePassX, qBittorrent, Vlc, etc.) look perfectly fine with Broica.
Is there anything you can suggest?
Thanks

Hi,
while investigating VirtualBox' GUI strange behaviour (issue #57) I noticed something else: the Geometry Manager refused to save the window size and position, due to a whitespace in the Class and Resource Names (as a matter of fact, both identify themselves as "VirtualBox Manager")
Having seen that both scripts confget.py and confset.py in /opt/NsCDE/bin make use of Python's configparser which, according to its documentation, supports whitespaces in keys, I tried to manually editing $HOME/.NsCDE/GeoDB.ini and added a line, like so:

VirtualBox Manager,VirtualBox Manager = (width)p (height)p (x-pos)p (y-pos)p

It worked; I made several experiments modifying the 4 values in $HOME/.NsCDE/GeoDB.ini, and every time the VirtualBox' GUI window did comply with the settings. So, I've taken once again the liberty of modifying /opt/NsCDE/lib/scripts/GeometryMgr slightly, in order to accept and save X11 Classes and Resources with whitespaces in their names.

I've attached my patch, just to give you an idea of what I did
allow_whitespaces_in_x11_class_and_resource_names.patch.txt

However, if you think that such modification would be inappropriate (e.g. may have undesired side effects) do feel free to discard my suggestion.
Thanks

With NsCDE (on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS), the system appearance in applications changes to resemble that of NsCDE, even when I start a session with a different desktop environment. Why is that?

It would be nice if the install script would ask about the gtk-key-theme-name which the user like to use. I mostly stay with the default and not with emacs key theme for any application.

It is mentioned in the documentation that it is possible to replace the pclock icon with the Solaris version (globe and hands). But somehow (from my point of view) the documentation should also describe how to replace it.

I tried to understand how it should work but somehow failed - that's also the reason why I open this ticket :-)

I absolutely love NsCDE, but I have a couple issues with it.

First, I can't enable Compiz to eliminate screen tearing. When I try enabling Compiz with compiz --replace, I get logged out. Sign back in and screen tearing is still present. How would I enable Compiz?

Also, how would I make the taskbar smaller than currently allowed? I use NsCDE on a 1024x768 display and it's a bit too big for me.

Hi @NsCDE,

Not sure if you're aware, but I've resurrected the fvwmforums.

Please do post anything you like there regarding NsCDE. I've already extended this offer to fvwm-crystal and fvwm-nightshade who are making use of it.

If you're interested, I've created a category for NsCDE already (https://fvwmforums.org/c/fvwm-themes/nscde/).

Feel free to register an account.

If you've any questions, let me know. Hope I'm not being too presumptuous.

Cheers,
Thomas

I'm loving the work you're doing on this project, it looks great! I'd want to use it on my Slackware system but as I'm not too familiar with the KORN shell I can't go through and modify the installer.ksh to allow for a staged install which would let me make a software package out of the application. Because of this, I and anyone else who would wish to use NsCDE are unable to create a software package for it.
Your project also seems to be using a non-standard build system as opposed to something like apache-ant or make. I think that if you were to use the make/gnu autotools related build systems, this would make it easier for your project to be packaged and distributed on Linux repositories and make it easier to install/more accessible to most users.

First of all thank you for the 1.1 release. The added tile support is very exciting!

I wanted to report that the new dialog window for picking a background picture seems to be unable to traverse into directories with spaces in the name. Attached a screenshot of a the dialog box. At the pictured level, it can traverse deeper into folders without a space in the name.

How i can change the cursor ? i want make my cursor like red cursor in SGI IRIX OS

I have been using NsCDE for 1 month now and I can say all the web-apps such as slack, Skype, and Spottily work with delay.
For instance, in the case of Slack, the apps get suspended and then the message is delivered after 10 seconds or for the case of Spotify I change the music or volume but it takes few second for it to take place. This might be due to Electron Javascript library that is not working efficiently with NsCDE but if this problem is resolved, this will become a very useful desktop environment.

Thanks for all the hard work and got to say I love this.

While trying to run the installer, I get the following error:

[15:15:04] toughbook [NsCDE] >> ./Installer.ksh -X /usr/local/share/xsessions -i

*************************************************************************
*                                                                       *
*  Starting Installer.ksh for Not So Common Desktop Environment (NsCDE) *
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install_nscde: ./Installer.ksh[1051]: whence: -q: unknown option
Error: cannot find fvwm binary. Install FVWM before continuing.

When trying to run whence with the mentioned parameter, I get the following:

[15:20:27] toughbook [NsCDE] >> /bin/ksh 
toughbook# type whence
whence is a shell builtin
toughbook# whence -q ksh
/bin/ksh: whence: -q: unknown option
toughbook# 

On the normal CDE desktop, you are able to right click anywhere in the title bar to get to the menu for managing that window.

On NSCde, you have to click the - icon, which is the case for cde too, however, on CDE you can do both, it is nice.

I must also ask, is it possible to run the themeing utility stand alone? I often set it to make apps look better with real CDE.