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BeltDrivenEnder3

Versions/Variants

1: Stock V-Wheels 2: MGN-12H 3: Dual Z (Wheels and MGN)

Hello and welcome to the Belt Driven Z Mod.

STLs, Bill of Materials and Instructions

Please visit my website to start the Config Finder. I have spent many hours creating a very interactive and easy to follow guide for the mod. You will get all the files you need at the end of the Config Finder, including a zip file with all the STLs, materials you need, and the instructions for your particular setup.

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Further notes

Versions vs. Variants

This mod now exists in the 3rd version (V3). The _ignore folder contains all the files for the old versions (V1 and V2). The current version (V3) exists in 3 variations:V-Wheels, MGN-12h and Dual Z (Dual Z works with both variants V-Wheels and MGN-12h). In addition, you can choose between the normal and ultralow version. I hope this clarifies the confusion between the versions and variants. Again please use the config finder on my website to configure your individual setup.

Attention!

I'm not an expert and 3D printing is my hobby. So please be careful when you rebuild this mod and don't just go ahead. For my printer the parts fit perfectly. Everybody bears the risks of a modification himself. All parts can be modified as you like. :D

Print settings

All Parts can be printed without support. Keep the orientation for best results. Yes, you can use PLA but no, you shouldn’t use PLA. I used PETG for the unenclosured, ABS for the enclosured printer. Suggested print settings: 50% Infill, 5 Walls/Top-Bottom layer. Good luck and happy printing!

Why I made the Mod:

My Ender 3 always had problems with the Z-axis, which were caused by a bent and misaligned leadscrew. Therefore I decided to convert the Ender to belts in Z as well. This mod also solves the problem of a hanging x-axis on the right side. Because of the two belts, both sides run synchronously and can also be adjusted very precisely.

What this Mod can't do:

This mod can't solve problems that are caused by an inconsitent extrusion. Inconsitent extrusion means an untuned Flowrate/Extrusion multiplier and causes very inconsitent layers --> this looks like the picture below. To get rid of that you should tune all extrusion related values, like Flowrate an Linear Advance (Marlin) / Pressure Advance (Klipper). Take a look at this tuning guide, its very well made (Works also for non Voron Printers and Marlin machines).

Powered by Powge!

I am very very proud to announce that there is now a Motion Kit for this mod available for purchase! The Motion Kit from Powge provides all parts for Single Z or Dual Z, with F623 or 20T Idlers and in black or silver. This allows us to use high quality parts at a low price! Belts and pulleys match up perfectly and make the mod a little better. Thanks to Powge for this opportunity! (btw Aliexpress shows delivery times of several months, but shipping is significantly faster (to Germany it takes about 10 days)). Link to the kit (also included in the BOM): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003933709487.html

A word about linear rails.

There's a reason I haven't made a rail version in a very long time: Rails are not better than rollers in terms of quality. At least the cheap rails you can buy on AliExpress. The tolerances are not good, they don't last long and can give z artifacts that you don't have with rollers. From time to time I get messages that the x axis drops as soon as the power is turned off. Every time that happens the mod uses rails. And like almost of those has cheap china rails. The problem with these cheap rails is that there is no friction at all, no tension and the Z axis is very poorly guided. The little Z motor has to carry all the weight because the rails are so loose they can't take any load. You also have to take care of the rails, lubricate and clean them from time to time, and make sure they don't leak. So you will spend a lot of money on a set of rails if you want good rails. Plus lubricants, cleaners, etc. Also, mounting the rails is more complicated. With wheels, you spent almost nothing on a new wheel, put it on, and you are good to go. So I recommend trying wheels first and if you still want rails, you just need to print two small adapters to install the rails. Keep things simple ;)

How to use the toothed idlers

You have to remove the flage of the toothed idlers, otherwise they would get in contact with the profile.

Acknowledgements

I would like to thank everyone who supported this project, especially Guffy and the Awesome Helpers from my Discord! Also a big thank you to my mate Deutherius who helped me with the initial setup of this mod!

Thank you Voron

This mod uses a modified transmission from the Voron 2.2. I made a different frame to mount it on the Ender 3. The tensionerarm and the tensionerring are from the Voron guys. These aren’t my work!!! The mount and the 80T gear are made by myself. Because the parts will be updated regularly, you can find the STLs I used on GitHub

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

I want to thank everyone who has helped me over the last months with feedback, support and confidence. Without you this mod would not have become sich a thing! Thanks also to Creality for the Golbal DIY Contest. I am very proud to announce that I could reach the 3rd place with his mod.

Print Showcase

Finally the video tutorials are finished!

Video Tutorial

https://youtu.be/oUdoJUs8Zcg

Video Tutorial

https://youtu.be/bxTwFCPEIgg

Keybak

Keybak system similar to the Switchwire design. The files were remixed from the Switchwire CAD file. For licensing reasons, all Keybak files are uploaded to GitHub only! Idea from Voron team, thanks!

Info: Because of the transmission it is not necessary to install a Keybak system. The 1:5 ratio increases the holding force of the motor so that it can hold the X axis up even when it is powered off. A correctly adjusted belt tension is important for this. If you are using the V-Wheels it is also important that they are installed correctly (See Troubleshooting). From time to time I hear that users struggle to keep the axis up by using the belt tension only. Therefore, I have designed the Keybak system. See BOM for all the parts you need.

What is a Keybak system and what is it for? A Keybak is actually used to secure keys to a wire rope. Depending on the Keybak, they can support a lot of weight without the cord extending on its own. The Keybak used here is strong enough to support the x axis. It takes the load off the motor and shares the weight of the axis with it. It is still important to tension the belts properly! If the belts are not tightened enough, there will be unclean prints later! So make sure that the Keybak doesn't mislead you into not tightening the belts enough. See my FAQ video on how to properly tension the belts (video coming soon).

You will have to print a new 1_LeftTop_A and a 3_spacer to use the Keybak.

FAQ

Do I need to change the firmware?

NO! You do not have to change anything in the firmware. This modification works with the stock board and stock firmware.

Can I use PLA to print the parts?

Yes and no. All parts should work with PLA, except the motor tensioner arm. The motor has to hold more weight now, so the motor could get warm. Since PLA deforms at ~40°C you should keep an eye on your motor (see troubleshooting). Because of that I would recommend PETG. When you're printing inside an enclosure you should use ABS. Try Esun ABS+, super easy to print, and much stronger than PETG.

Is this mod also compatible with the Ender 3 V2/Pro etc?

YES! You can use this mod with all Ender 3 versions.

Can use this for my Creality CR printer?

View the makes on Thingiverse. Some of you made a CR build so I thing it should fit. Feel free to give some feedback about that.

Do I need a hardened steelrod?

NO! A cheap aluminium or "normal" steelrod is just fine. There's also a transmission (rotated and unrotated) that hold a bearing inside, so you have some extra support in the middle of your rod. You also could use your leadscrew to minimize the costs.

Dual Z? G34?

So you want to use two stepper motors to have an indipendent z axis? Thats possible of course! Just use the files from the Dual Z folder! See BOM for detailed parts list.

I have a special question/ I need a custom version but I'm new to CAD. Can you help me?

Yes of course! I'm happy to help, so please contact me via Discord (kevinakasam#2097). I'm sure we will find a solution for your problem :)

Can I support your work?

Thank you very much if you want to support my work! But please dont feel obligated to do so. All parts are free and open source and will stay that way! If you still want to support me, you can find a donation link at the bottom of this page. Really many many thanks! :)

Troubleshooting

My Z motor moves in the wrong direction!

Thats a quick fix. Just remove all the pins in you motor connector that goes into the mainboard (like I showed you in my video) and insert them in the opposite order (4321 instead of 1234).

My Z motor gets super hot!

First of all: A warm or slighty hot motor isn't a super bad thing. But you should change that. Try to lower your V-ref/Amps till the motor stays hand warm. But be careful to not reduce the current too much, or your motor will lose steps. The stock Z motor is very small so it's a big job for the tiny motor. Don't worry if your motor gets warm.

My z axis drops as soon as power off my printer!

Probably the most asked question, but I can promise that your axis does not have to drop! As already mentioned, the z motor is very small. Therefore the magnetic field that exists in the motor even without power isn't very strong. But it's strong enough to keep the axis up.

I don't care, my axis is dropping, what can I do?

  1. You are using the original V-Rollers? Be sure they are properly set up. Turn the eccentric nut until the rollers are in contact with the profile. Put a little tension on the rollers, but not too much! Do not risk a flat spot of your rollers. The tension is correct when they are tight, and you can't turn them with your finger in the same place, but the axis moves when you turn the rollers.
  2. You have no rollers or your axis is still dropping? Tension your long belts a little more. Increase the tension until your axis stops dropping. Be careful not to break something. But the parts can take a lot of tension. Otherwise, check out my FAQ video about how to tension the belts (THE VIDEO HAS STILL TO BE CREATED).
  3. Tension the small looped belt a bit more as well. But very carefully! Usually the tension only needs to be high enough to keep the belt from slipping over the printed wheel. But you can increase the tension a little bit. But not too much, otherwise the motor can't turn anymore.
  4. That sounds too complicated? Your motor is also too hot? A solution would be a bigger motor, like the one on the X and Y axis. A bigger motor is able to hold the axis up very easily, with less tension and less heat. But as I said, this is not necessary, it also works with the original motor.
  5. New solution: Install the Keybak System (added 31.10.2021).

Changelog:

25.02.2023: Update? It's been a while! Release of the V3.7 files.

  • Plate update -The right plate got an extra hole to access the M4 screw that holds the metal plate to the X axis.
    • The holes for the hex nut got a bridging pattern so no more filament can curl there.
  • Transmission Update
    • All the transmission bodies got a cutout to make it easier to tighten the motor shaft grub screw.
    • Utralow and Dual Z transmissions have also received a hole to access the 20T pulley grub screws.
  • Update of the lower parts
    • The small hill that holds the 3x14mm pin in place is now much smaller and it should be much easier to insert the pins
  • V3_Extras update
    • Added a version with heat inserts that replaces the M3 hex nuts with heat inserts.
    • MGN 12C support
    • Printer adaptations for Artillery Hornet and Tevo Tarantula Pro

21.09.2022: Release of the Website and the new instructions!

23.08.2022: Big Update! Release of the V3.6 files.

  • Almost all Parts got an update:
    • Housing for the tensioner on the plates is thicker now
    • Bottom Parts use Pins now instead of M3 screws (old files still available in \V3\_old_V3_parts in case you want to use screws)
    • Replaced printed thread on the transmission tensioner with a M5 Screw
    • EOL for unrotated and non-exttra bearing transmission
    • Revomed the top holes from the transmissions and Top part --> less hardware needed and it was a pain to install these, sorry for that!)
    • The UltraLow version is now an "official" variattion of this mod (no longer in the V3_extras folder).
  • Things that will follow:
    • New Instructions with an updated BOM --> Interactive with a ton of information

14.07.2022: Added MGN 9H support in the V3_Extras folder.

09.05.2022: Updated the BOM. (16T link was wrong, sorry for that!)

27.01.2022: Updated the BOM.

19.01.2022: Small Changes

  • Added the V3_Extra folder to store the customizations I made for you.
  • Added the small hole in the V3.5 plates again for the belt from the tensioner block.

09.01.2022: Second big Update: V3.5

  • Adjusted the Belt path so they're parallel now. This was requested quite often, sorry it took so long.
  • Added a version for toothed bearings.
  • Added Dual Z Version.
  • Removed upper holes in the Top parts, so you do not have to unscrew the top profile.

31.10.2021: Big Update!

  • Moved the extruder to the stock position for the V3.4_Bowden plates (Fits BMG now too). Idea from trohnjavolta, thanks!
  • Split the tops into two parts to make them easier to print and more stable (Top_A and Top_B). Idea from sztywniutko (Thing:4911634), thanks!
  • Added a PSU mount.
  • Added a Keybak system similar to the Switchwire design. The files were remixed from the Switchwire CAD file. For licensing reasons, all Keybak files are uploaded to GitHub only! Idea from Voron team, thanks!

17.08.2021: Made some small tolerance changes to the rotated transmission and the inner M3 parts.

31.07.2021: I made a mistake and uploaded the wrong files for "LeftTop" and RightTop". If you downloaded the files from Thingiverse between 15.06.2021 and 31.07.2021, please download the latest version. I am very sorry! Thanks to mbarryton for the hint!

15.06.2021: Important!!! Both Versions (rotated and unrotated) are compatible now. Both versions now have the identical LeftTop and RightTop (the one from the rotated version).

15.06.2021: I have added a version of both transmissions that include a ball bearing. So the rod is supported in the middle by another ball bearing.

15.06.2020: Updated CAD with all Versions. Many thanks to Regulus who did a great job adding many wonderful details to the CAD file. All parts are now properly aligned, all fasteners are added and named. Seriously many many thanks!

02.06.2021: Added Left and Right V3.3. Changed the design of the lower clamp profile. If youre using the 3.1 or 3.2 that's totally fine;)

02.06.2021: Updated the 80T Gear on GitHub. reduced the outer diameter a bit so theres a bigger gap to the profile. Thanks to Regulus!

06.05.2021: Modified MGN Version fits now for Ender 3 (Pro) and Ender 3 V2. Bowden Version tested. Thanks to Jon!

04.05.2021: Added a Video Tutorial.

02.05.2021: Added Left and Right V3.2. Tensioner were missaligned by ~0.5mm. Thanks to Zardozer for the hint! If youre using the old V3.1 its totally fine. I'm using them as well:D

14.02.2021: Changes for the MGN Version!! LeftV1 added. Please print 1_Left and 1_LeftV1. I would appreciate feedback for Left or LeftV1. I have created the files with the official CAD, but the M4 screws differ in the position by 2mm. Please print both versions and tell me which fits, thanks:)

26.02.2021: Added Bowdenversion.

26.02.2021: Started Changelog.


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beltdrivenender3's Issues

1_ZDriveTensioningRing(Voron).stl too large

Printed everything in ASA on my voron v0.1 which is calibrated very good and had to print 1_ZDriveTensioningRing(Voron).stl with 98% size in X&Y to have a good fit with the thread of 1_MotorMountTensionerArm(Voron).stl

at 100% it just slides over

Request - Geeetech A20(M/T)

Hello,

After I did this to my creality printers, I realized this is too good to not have in my other printers, which are geeetech a20 (M)
I found an STL with a complete A20M in thingiverse, but, scale seems off, I'll try to figure it out tomorrow, but, I don't have enough knowledge to fix the Z plates to match the A20 plates, as far as I know, it's the only thing that needs fixing, apart from probably have to drill 4 holes to screw the Z belt idlers in the bottom of the printer.

Is it something of a possibility this, or any chance of a fusion file with history so I can try and replicate the work for the A20 Z plate dimensions ?

Thank you for this excellent work

No step file for linear rail parts

I have been running this belt system over 6 months. I am now upgrading to linear rails but found one of the part does not fit correctly because my rails seem to have a slightly thicker car on them. I tried to modify the STL file for the left adapter but Fusion cannot generate an STL from the original STL. I import and try to export it back and get an error.

I downloaded the CAD files but this does not include any of the linear rail adapters for the Z axis. Can you please share these files?

Twist-to-tension transmission

Maybe my Ender 3 is an odd one, but the original Z shaft is too short and the pulley hangs off the end of the shaft, resulting in artifacts. In addition, #72 and #51 both point to complexity in the current design. I think it would be simple to redesign the motor mount to use a twist-to-tension design, simplifying the print and eliminating the need for a separate motor carriage and M5 bolt entirely. I used this in my own printer for the Z axis. I think this would solve the issue with short shafts, bolts, nuts, and remove one more piece of hardware.

Only one screw is anchored. The other 3 move in a path along arcs centered on the anchored screw.

It's not easy to tell, but the Voron Zero has a belted design that uses this: https://www.teamfdm.com/files/file/319-v01-belted-z-drive/

Transmission_UL

I'm on version 3.5 and am planning to switch back to v3.6 UltraLow.
Can you update the file Transmission_UL_V3.6 for the left side? because if using the right file, the stepper motor cable will have to be much longer? thank you very much

Ender3 v2 neo uses different extrusions

An issue I have encountered is that the new "neo" update to ender series uses different extrusions with 1 side flat.
It is still fine in my opinion since support is held with 2 screws and motor mount with 3 if you rotate extrusion 180 degrees.
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G34 Dual Z

I cant seem to locate the dual z folder referenced in the read me
is this correct or am i just going blind

Dual Z G34
For a dual Z setup with two z motors use the files from the "Dual Z" folder instead of the transmission and top parts from the V3 folder. The rest is still the same, works with V-Wheels and MGN-Rails.

Left/Right Top AB for Rotated transmission

So please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm trying to find in the documentation how I could have known that the parts I printed were not compatible.
From this Git I took the latest version, and printed the transmission body with bearing and rotated version. Then according to BOM I printed the left/right top A/B, but they don't align with the rotated transmission body for the rod. Looking at the STL files they do align with the unrotated version though. The only bearing holders that seem to align with the rotated transmission body are the TransmissionBody_Left.stl and TransmissionBody_Right.stl in the root directory. This seems like there's a line missing in docs/BOM maybe?

Unequal belt path length for left and right belts in version 3.5

Hi Kevin / Sam. I tried to upgrade to the V3.5 plates but I ran into an issue.

The distance from the top of the nut to the bottom of the belt clamp (see image below) is different for the left and right plate. The left distance is 19.405mm and on the right it's 20.629mm (blue dotted line in the image below).

This means that the required belt lengths are not the same for the left and right belts and therefore it's not possible to achieve equal belt tension on both sides without measuring the actual tension.

I took the same measurements from an older CAD (I don't know which version or how old) and there both distances are equal.

The method I use to achieve equal tension is to cut both belts to the same length and then tighten the tensioner screws with an equal number of turns. But for that the belt paths on both sides must be exactly the same.

The measurements below were taken from BeltDriven_Ender3_V3_25012022.step and I've also been able to measure the difference in the actual prints.

BTW, thanks for this awesome mod! I've used it for a long time after getting super frustrated with dual Z lead screws.

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CAD - MGN 12H Rail

Lord Kevinakasam,

Your designs are flawless, they print perfectly fine, they work great. I can't express how glad I am to have found your mod for the ender series printers.

I'm working on modifying my printer to accommodate for several extruders, moreover, I'm working with your MGN v3 design to use dual linear rails on the Z axis. Currently your cad model uses the v-slot wheels and there are no signs of the spacers you created for the linear rail variant of the mod, if it isn't too much to ask, would it be possible for you to post the CAD models to the other variants, more specifically one that has the spacers that replace the v-slot wheels?

Just to give you a little sneak peak here is a view of what I'm working on, to give you a little hint it involves the Octopus Board, 5 extruders, and a custom ultra silent fan shroud which uses noctua fans. Btw the motors up top are extruders and not the x steppers. Of course I was unable to change the model to reflect on your mod, not just yet, I was kinda hoping to get the spacers first (the step file from you) then I'd go in there and change things up
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20220203_234453
This is pretty messy at the moment because I have not been able to take care of the wires but as soon as I have the extruders mounted where I need them then I'll do cable management.
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Thank you for your all your hard work, your mod really helped me.

1_RightBottom.stl too close on gantry

Hello,

thank you for the great modification. I could complete it yesterday and made three little observations:

  1. the 1_RightBottom part (https://github.com/kevinakasam/BeltDrivenEnder3/blob/main/V3/1_RightBottom.stl) is on my Ender-3 too close to the gantry so the belt starts to rub on the 2040 profile. I fixed it for now by using two washers but 1mm - 1.5mm more clearance would be the best. So a simple increase of the strength ob the baseplate should solve this problem.
    IMG_20211129_013501

  2. the pulleys on the top let my belt moving left and right an the clearance where the belt should move freely is pretty tight. You can see it in the picture.
    IMG_20211129_013447

  3. the rod could be 4-5mm longer being in total 335mm. I let cut my rod before I assembled the mod and saw that the rod disappears in the 608ZZ bearings on the right and the left.

But all in all it's a really nice mod and I already did my first testprint and all went fine!

Thanks!

Ultra Low Transmissions do not have through holes

I printed the STLs for the Ultra Low transmissions (left and right) and to my surprise, the holes for the T-nuts/bolts do not extend all the way through the model. I finished with a drill so it was not a issue but others may not have this ability. Thanks!

188mm belt to 188T belt

Hey there, thanks for this awesome mod.

I did run through parts list to make mine, I stumbled on a part which I couldn't find. On the parts list it says 188mm belt and on the bottom it says 188T. I couldn't find the source code of the website to create MR.

Thanks and have a nice day.

Parts list I'm looking: https://kevinakasam.com/snvb623-2/

Feedback - New belt tensioner nut design

I had some issues with the new belt tensioner bolt design - the change from inserting it on the bottom to sliding it into a gap (I used V3.6). My nuts didn't fit, either they are slightly larger than standard or my print came out a little small - this is likely as my calibration tests did show inner diameters to be about 1-2% undersized, but they're incredibly difficult to get into to modify after printing, and after you resort to trying to push them in with heat and ruin one, a pain to try and reprint when your printer is in parts! The previous design was a bit fiddly to get the nut set in position but more reliable imo

These either need a lot more clearance to allow you to easily insert of a range of different nut sources or a rethink on the design, I realise with the current design it does need to be tight enough to hold the nut as you tension the belt too.

I know not everyone will have them available and may be too much hassle to maintain a design fork but a version of the parts with heatserts would be fantastic - they are great for 3D printed parts.

Enable the discussion tab in GitHub

Would be nice to be able to exchange information on this project. GitHub has a nice message board that can be made available in the discussion tab.

Motor Mount Tensioner Arm

Excellent work on this project. I did notice a thing or two while building it.
For the heat set insert version, would it be possible to add a short M5 insert where the M5 tensioner ring bolt goes into the motor mount? This way when loosening the belt you don't go to far and that M5 nut fall out. Might also be able to add a spring between the mount and the transmission body or the transmission body and the tensioner ring, to maintain tension while loosening or tightening, thus allowing the motor mount to move accordingly without having to get fingers in there and push or pull the motor mount itself. That gets difficult with the printer inside an enclosure.

LeftV3.3 stl

I just printed the LeftV3.3 stl file and the teeth for the belt are all squished and not uniform. After comparing V3.3 to the previous versions, I see that all the older versions have a proper 2GT belt tooth, but 3.3 has a square 1mm tooth with 1mm spacing.

v3 3

Missing files for transmission

Hello,

The .stl files for the entire transmission (both regular and rotated) seem to be missing from both Thingiverse and GitHub. I was able to export the bodies I need from the Fusion360 CAD file, but they seem to be older models and don't reflect the bearing change you made in your changelog.

Easier to insert nuts of MGN12H adapter from the bottom

Hi Kevin / Sam

I had some trouble inserting the M3 nuts into the block and pushing them all the way down, probably due to ASA shrinkage. So I've moved the holes to the bottom where the nuts don't have to be pushed down through the entire part. I thought you might want to consider doing the same for your original design as it makes it much easier to insert the nuts.
On the left side it's not really an issue because the nuts don't have to be pushed in as deeply as on the right side.

I've attached STL and STEP files here for reference: RightV3.3 (MGN) bottom nuts.zip (sorry GitHub does not support directly attaching STEP files and STLs)

I don't have Fusion 360 so I just patched up the STEP file with lots of booleans but here's the Onshape link:
https://cad.onshape.com/documents/530c50c0feb35506422f7b54/w/d6230fb67fb3cda85e9c2f90/e/e698622b87cb5f67726b5bd5?renderMode=0&uiState=6236882708209f1af7b77858

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Can't download

Hello
I can't download the V3.step files.
I would like to check and mabye adjust the Z plates.

Ender 3v2

Is it compatible with ender3 v2?? Seems like it's all the same.. But I'm not 100% sure?

Ender 3 V2 Cannot Use Tram Macro

The stepper drivers on the Ender 3 V2 are in standalone mode, and their current cannot be adjusted via klipper/firmware. It might be wise to just put a quick note in the Dual Z readme page that the given macro won't work for people with a stock Ender 3 V2 board (Creality 4.2.2 or 4.2.7 boards)

Ender 3 Max PSU mount Support

the current PSU support only really works for an Ender 3 pro, and would need an adaptation to properly mount onto an Ender 3 Max

Thin Walls

Is it possible to improve top right and left? The place where the belt is tightened always tears me. If the walls were thicker, the problem would be solved.

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