MIA Owners about culture HOT 15 CLOSED

The concept: 👍
Being gone for a while shows a lack of interest and can have some impact on your ability to RO (don't know who's trolling this week and what the problems have been).

30 days seems like a good timeout, so nobody gets booted for a vacation. If we have contact info for the RO, I think we should try to get in touch with them after 14 or 21 days, before booting them (maybe just a ping on chat).

If they come back, open an issue and we'll hold no vote/just a "you wanna be around? k, cool" check.

They should be able to note their absence here or in chat, though, if they are going to be traveling for a while. If they warn us, I don't think we need to drop them.

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yea, circumstances come up all the time. someone may legit be away without notice for a while. I just don't think we should clutter the list with people who may or may not have abandoned ship. And if they return, no fuss no muss?

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It certainly is a good way to maintain who's actually active at the time, and allowing them to re-obtain ROship once they begin to be active again if they were in good standing keeps a smooth transition.

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👍 unless the owner has explicitly communicated why they're MIAing

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👍

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👍 with the clause that @benjamingr added.

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👍 overall however there are some cases that should be discussed such as, if someone stops by 5 days a month, technically it's enough to stay an active Room Owner.. but by no means enough to know whats going on in the room to effectively moderate. These situations should be handled on a case by case basis.

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👍, keeping @loktar00's comment in mind.

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but by no means enough to know whats going on in the room to effectively moderate. These situations should be handled on a case by case basis.

+1 You can miss the entire context of a conversation or a user by missing a single day. This is why we opened the moderation repo - so kicks are kept track of and people can effectively moderate without being in the same timezone.

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After a little more reflection over the weekend, 30 days seems like an awful lot of no-notice missing time. I'd say two weeks is a little more justifiable without a heads up, as two weeks without being in the room puts you significantly behind in terms of room activity.

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-1 for two weeks. Being RO is about trust in your ability to moderate. Lots of people have personal stuff going on, and I'm sure every one of us had to miss a week or two at a point.

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@benjamingr I'm saying two weeks without a heads up. I think most of us who are regulars have various means to contact someone to let them know something is up. Popping off a quick text/hangouts message/ping in chat takes all of 15 seconds.

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Right, and I'm against that, if I have a family emergency and a family member gets hospitalized the last thing I'm going to think about is "better let the JavaScript room know I won't be around for the next week or two!".

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Well, that's fair. Sometimes I forget I'm more disconnected than most people. 30 is reasonable in that case then.

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The consensus seems to be:

• An owner is considered MIA if they disappear for a month without prior notice.
• If after a month the owner hasn't responded, de-owner.
  • I'll add my own small clause: Raise a de-owner issue about them.
• If/when they come back we'll have a regular vote on them.

And in addition:

• An owner's regular activity should also be considered. If an owner doesn't show up often then they're probably not active enough to know the ebb and flow of the room and can't be as helpful.
• In those cases, vote for removal per norm.

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