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orta avatar orta commented on May 31, 2024 4

OK, I'm calling this. Omakase is sticking around for good 🍣πŸ₯‡

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orta avatar orta commented on May 31, 2024 3

Hah - I'm definitely open to just saying 'we stick with omakase' and make it werq.

If folks are in agreement, want to πŸ‘ on this or the above comment?

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damassi avatar damassi commented on May 31, 2024 1

Heh -- I really like Artsy Omakase ;) Its weird and though it requires some explaination its a useful concept. It also looks cool to read

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alloy avatar alloy commented on May 31, 2024

I like it πŸ‘

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mbilokonsky avatar mbilokonsky commented on May 31, 2024

My only hangup with "Artsy Studio" is that as a New Yorker a studio just sounds like a tiny overpriced room to sleep in.

It took me a while to wrap my head around how omakase was different from a stack, and I realized that it's because what Omakase describes isn't actually a noun - it's a collection of related verbs. It's not just these technologies but the way they are intertwined, right?

I don't wanna derail if this is more-or-less a done deal, but I keep coming back to something like "The Artsy Way" or "The Dao of Artsy" or something in that vein, something dynamic and fluid. Artsy Studio feels immediately sort of dated, to me, like there's an implicit 1.0 hanging off of it in a very 1997 font?

But, take this with a grain of salt, obviously, just my two cents!

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damassi avatar damassi commented on May 31, 2024

"Studio" feels too much like "Dreamweaver Studio" or "Flash Studio" or like "X Studio" -- like... appending "Studio" to a group of things is too often the default fallback for orgs and apps and businesses. (Echoing @mbilokonsky, "Studio" evokes in my mind that weird discount software box art from the 90's πŸ˜„.) Artsy Omakase feels creative and unique, even if it might not capture the full spectrum of what you're trying to describe and is a bit annoying to define.

Rather than RFC'ing a change to a specific name, we should come up with a group of names and narrow it down to a vote. Def down with changing from Omakase, but I think we can come up with some other alternatives to Studio!

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orta avatar orta commented on May 31, 2024

I'm happy to have this be "re-name the omakase" thread, Ohm and Studio were the result of a bunch of chats at offsite etc πŸ‘

I'm definitely not stuck with it though, so I've updated the PR ^

"Dreamweaver Studio" or "Flash Studio"

Hah πŸ₯‡

"The Artsy Way" or "The Dao of Artsy"

If it ends up being something that vague, we'd be better off sticking with the Omakase IMO - but I'd like the name to have clarity and ideally be a single word.

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mbilokonsky avatar mbilokonsky commented on May 31, 2024

The Artsy Approach, Artsy Under the Hood, Artsy Craftsy (I'll see myself out)

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orta avatar orta commented on May 31, 2024

Can people come up with better names? I've not found anything else useful in the time in-between and I've have had a few watercolor conversations in the office on the topic now.

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alloy avatar alloy commented on May 31, 2024

I do like Omakase over Studio.

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anandaroop avatar anandaroop commented on May 31, 2024

I actually liked Studio bc I thought it fit Artsy's domain well (despite being a somewhat hackneyed default name for many other projects, as pointed out above.)

Omakase will have the benefit(?) of resonating with Rails people, but might also be seen as derivative for that same reason.

I'm fine with either really.

(Though it does occur to me that there are other Japanese terms which are about aesthetics and that are painfully apt: wabi-sabi, mono no aware, etc. Not sure if they make for good names though πŸ˜… )

Ok, one last suggestion from the peanut gallery: Artsy Mold, as in what sculptors may use:

screen shot 2018-09-10 at 9 47 08 am

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orta avatar orta commented on May 31, 2024

For me the rails reference was something I was explicitly aiming for when I first started using the term. I don't feel it's in our interest to try go all out and actually make a rails-like framework for JS with that name etc, but the central theme of that blog post (outside of the dealings with folk) really resonates with what we ended up creating.

Also, you are definitely not the peanut gallery man πŸ₯‡

Interesting, "Artsy Wabi-Sabi" does have a nice phonetic sound and really does hit home on the ideas of the stack too - damnit, now I feel a bit more conflicted

In traditional Japanese aesthetics, wabi-sabi (δΎ˜ε―‚) is a world view centered on the acceptance of transience and imperfection.[2] The aesthetic is sometimes described as one of beauty that is "imperfect, impermanent, and incomplete".[3] It is a concept derived from the Buddhist teaching of the three marks of existence (三法印 sanbōin), specifically impermanence (η„‘εΈΈ mujō), suffering (苦 ku) and emptiness or absence of self-nature (η©Ί kΕ«).

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