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mooninite avatar mooninite commented on July 28, 2024 4

@rickyrockrat, Gnome Shell has dropped support for the legacy system tray. This means your app no longer does anything on Gnome 3.28. Updating the application to use GTK3 and the Gnome Shell notication area would make this application useful again.

I'm not sure where the comments about GTK3 come from, but they have no place here. You can either update the application or fade away into the sunset.

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rickyrockrat avatar rickyrockrat commented on July 28, 2024 3

GTK+3 was unstable for so long (and still has a lot of issues). I will likely evaluate the possibilities and choose a GUI tool kit. FLTK is a strong possibility. Gnome pretty much killed itself with GTK+3.

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sanjayankur31 avatar sanjayankur31 commented on July 28, 2024 1

If moving to GTK3 is not an option, for whatever reason, I wonder if a shell extension would be in order then?

https://blogs.gnome.org/aday/2017/08/31/status-icons-and-gnome/ -> This is worth a read, by the way.

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rickyrockrat avatar rickyrockrat commented on July 28, 2024

There may be a possibility of moving to GTK3. I decided to take a look at seeing how much work it would be. I may build a branch and see how that fares.
@mooninite - who are you to tell me what I can say on my project? Did you somehow achieve god-like status? Please be a thorn in someone else's project.

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felagund avatar felagund commented on July 28, 2024

And Parcellite can be used without icon, so it can work great on Gnome too, I assume - I am still running it on Unity so not sure. Thanks for your work, Rickyrockrat!

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felagund avatar felagund commented on July 28, 2024

But now with GTK 4 I am afraid GTK2 libreries will stop being included in distributions...

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johntyree avatar johntyree commented on July 28, 2024

The answer seems to be "stop using GTK."

This is a very simple app with a very simple UI. Migrating to a new UI framework every 2-3 years is a huge waste of time and resources.

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rickyrockrat avatar rickyrockrat commented on July 28, 2024

johntyree - I think you might be right. This reminds me of an app I wrote a long time ago that works with imlib and is a layer right on top of X. I know folks using QT, but that has it's own issues as well. Perhaps it's time to remove all GUI toolkits and use something even lower level.

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johntyree avatar johntyree commented on July 28, 2024

There plenty of good, generic "menu" apps available for X11. I'd be fine with dzen2 or something, probably. At any rate, it seems like there's no need to roll your own if you don't enjoy it.

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martenwa avatar martenwa commented on July 28, 2024

@rickyrockrat I share your frustration with the toolkit updates, and it would indeed be nice in the future to remove those dependencies. This appears, however, at least to my naïve eyes, to be substantially more work than porting to GTK3 (or, as someone mentioned, GTK4). I am very satisfied with Parcellite, and I would be saddened to see it go when distributions finally stop shipping GTK2.

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rickyrockrat avatar rickyrockrat commented on July 28, 2024

No worries. When GTK2 leaves the distros, I will port it to something. But I do not like having to learn a new API every time toolkit owner X decides they want to change it...

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