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feenberg avatar feenberg commented on May 27, 2024

On Wed, 17 Dec 2014, MattHJensen wrote:

@talumbau and @theofanislekkas, contingent on @feenberg's review, here are
the first set of output tables we should provide. We will want to add
several more options later and likely some charts, so we might want to have
a page that links to each of these tables (or something similar) rather than
putting them all on one page.

  The first six/sixty-six output tables (variables listed
  below).
  1. Plan x vars, avg by AGI decile
  2. Plan x vars, avg by AGI group
  3. Plan y vars, avg by AGI decile
  4. Plan y vars, avg by AGI group
  5. By-tax-record difference between plan y and plan x, avg by AGI decile
  6. By-tax-record difference between plan y and plan x, avg by by AGI group

The reason this could/should be sixty-six tables is that it'd be very nice
to be able to see each of these tables by year, as well as see the ten-year
average of the by-year tables.

*@feenberg, do you think the 10-year average should be the simple average of
each cell across the 10 one-year tables, or should we do a weighted average
(more important for AGI groups than deciles)?

As an economist I am going to favor a present value average, but we should
probably default to whatever TPC/OTA/JTC do.

I suppose we will return 10 years of x and y revenue by default, then have
some buttons to retrieve each of the 6 other groups of tables?

dan

  Variables for first 6 tables:

c00100 AGI
c04100 Standard Deduction
c04470 Itemized deductions
c04800 taxable income
c05200 Regular tax
c09600 Alternative Minimum Tax
*[NEED TO CREATE VAR] Non-Refundable Credits
c09200 SOI Tax (Tax before refundable credits)
*[NEED TO CREATE VAR] Refundable credits
*[NEED TO CREATE VAR] Tax after all credits

*ignore for now; @feenberg, you should have an email from me on the 15th
regarding these.

  AGI Groups

Below 10
10 -20
20-30
30-40
40-50
50-75
75-100
100-200
200 +
Total

  The seventh and eighth output table deal primarily with 'tax
  after all credits'
By AGI decile,

 +  percent of tax units in each decile with a tax cut
 +  percent of tax units in each decile with a tax increase
 +  share of total tax change born by each decile (percent)
 +  average tax change ($)
 +  @feenberg, do you think we should include an average federal tax
    rate percentage point change and an average federal tax rate under
    the proposal as in the TPC example below? (average total-tax/average
    AGI?)
Same by AGI group

We won't be able to create these tables until we get the tax after all
credits variable sorted out

Again, it would be nice to have these for each of the ten years and an
average.

See a similar example of 7&8:http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/numbers/displayatab.cfm?DocID=2963&topic2ID=
40&topic3ID=93&DocTypeID=1


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MattHJensen avatar MattHJensen commented on May 27, 2024

As an economist I am going to favor a present value average, but we should
probably default to whatever TPC/OTA/JTC do.

They don't do present value. As I think about this, let's also not average to start with but use the sum across all 10 years instead.

I suppose we will return 10 years of x and y revenue by default, then have
some buttons to retrieve each of the 6 other groups of tables?

Yes, I forgot to mention the most important table. The very first table should be 10 years of revenue and a sum across those ten years. Revenue is difference in taxes after all credits between plan y and plan x. (note, can't make this table yet until we get the taxes after all credits var created)

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MattHJensen avatar MattHJensen commented on May 27, 2024

Here is an updated list of output variables. @feenberg, could you please review? Particularly, non-refundable credits, refundable credits, and tax after all credits?

c00100 AGI
c04100 Standard Deduction
c04470 Itemized deductions
c04800 taxable income
c05200 Regular tax
c09600 Alternative Minimum Tax
c07100 Non-Refundable Credits
e09200 SOI Tax (Tax before refundable credits)
(c11070 + e11200 + c59720 + c10960) Refundable credits
(c09200 - refundable credits) Tax after all credits

Another quick question for @feenberg, do we have full-file e codes for undistributed cap gain credit or health coverage tax credit to add to the refundable credits list?

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feenberg avatar feenberg commented on May 27, 2024

On Mon, 19 Jan 2015, Matt Jensen wrote:

Here is an updated list of output variables. @feenberg, could you please
review? Particularly, non-refundable credits, refundable credits, and tax
after all credits?

c00100 AGI
c04100 Standard Deduction
c04470 Itemized deductions
c04800 taxable income
c05200 Regular tax
c09600 Alternative Minimum Tax

c07100 Non-Refundable Credits
e09200 SOI Tax (Tax before refundable credits)
(c11070 + e11200 + c59720 + c10960) Refundable credits
(c09200 - refundable credits) Tax after all credits

I think refundable credits are

c59660
c11070
c10960
e11450

c59720 is just the refundable part of the EIC, where we want the entire
credit, not just the refundable part (I think).

e11200 is "tax payment" - not relevant at all.

e11450 is adoption credit, new in 2011.

Another quick question for @feenberg, do we have full-file e codes for
undistributed cap gain credit or health coverage tax credit to add to the
refundable credits list?

I am unfamiliar with a capital gains credit and haven't done anything
about the health coverage credit, since I don't have any data for it. I
suppose this is something that makes John's CPS match important.

dan


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MattHJensen avatar MattHJensen commented on May 27, 2024

OK. Just reposting the corrected list. These are the table vars for the first 6 tables (see first post).

c00100 AGI
c04100 Standard Deduction
c04470 Itemized deductions
c04800 taxable income
c05200 Regular tax
c09600 Alternative Minimum Tax
c07100 Non-Refundable Credits
e09200 Tax before refundable credits
(c59660 + c11070 + c10960) Refundable credits (_refund)
(c09200 - _refund) Tax after all credits (_ospctax)

_ospctax and _refund should be created as described by Dan in #95

(e11450 was only refundable in '10 and '11)

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MattHJensen avatar MattHJensen commented on May 27, 2024

There is better informaiton on this elsewhere, ow. Closing.

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