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Andygol avatar Andygol commented on September 23, 2024 4

I am ready to participate as part of the Ukrainian localization team πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦.

I have already given examples of using Crowdin and Transifex in #45209, if you put them in a pile, we get the following

Criteria Crowdin Transifex
Creating a project You must submit a request to use the free plan for an open source project A link to a free license in the project settings is sufficient to create a project with a free plan
Tree structure of directories and files by default flat list of all files, directories are not shown
Content rendering Supported Not supported
Break the content into blocks for translation Sentences (even for those that occupy several lines in the source) Only separate strings
Webhooks + +
CLI + +
Addons Marketplace -
Content ownership Belongs to the project owners Belongs to the project owners
Already translated content in the source repository Content translated in the source repo is synchronized with the project Content translated in the source repo is synchronized with the project
*.md + +
*.toml + -

I hope this is helpful and will speed up the platform selection process.

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stormqueen1990 avatar stormqueen1990 commented on September 23, 2024 3

Hi @a-mccarthy, could you please also add @edsoncelio to the group of interested people in pt-br? πŸ™πŸ» I mentioned in my original comment but I guess it got lost πŸ˜…

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holgers66 avatar holgers66 commented on September 23, 2024 2

I would like to volunteer as a TLMP tester and localization reviewer for German (and could help with Brazilian Portuguese also if needed).

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rolfedh avatar rolfedh commented on September 23, 2024 2

I'd like to volunteer for the role of TLMP administrator.
To improve response times, we should prefer administrators in differing time zones.

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zilmarr avatar zilmarr commented on September 23, 2024 2

I'd like to volunteer as a TLMP tester for pt-br.

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a-mccarthy avatar a-mccarthy commented on September 23, 2024 2

@stormqueen1990, added! apologies @edsoncelio πŸ™

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jeefy avatar jeefy commented on September 23, 2024 2

Hello! Friendly neighborhood CNCF rep here. <3

  1. POC work is fine, but before we (CNCF) need to review the Terms of Service for CrowdIn before too much happens (I'll kick this off, don't block on this)
  2. When you say unlimited open source license, is there any time box or additional info beyond what's on the OSS License Request? -- Relatedly, should we fill this out or were we hand-waving this for the POC work?
  3. If this really takes off, would love to talk about a partnership for the rest of the CNCF projects 😍

Thanks! Loop me into the Slack channel as well in case any quick questions arise. :D

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dies avatar dies commented on September 23, 2024 2

@natalisucks @jeefy I've joined #sig-docs-localizations 🀞 fingers crossed I can be of help

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OleksandrTsyhankov avatar OleksandrTsyhankov commented on September 23, 2024 2

I am ready to participate as part of the Ukrainian localization team πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦.

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stormqueen1990 avatar stormqueen1990 commented on September 23, 2024 1

@edsoncelio and I, from the Brazilian Portuguese localization team, are interested in volunteering for this. We do have one outstanding question: is it mandatory that all the involved people in the localization be at least a reviewer?

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jihoon-seo avatar jihoon-seo commented on September 23, 2024 1

I want to volunteer for Korean TLMP tester and Localization reviewer. After other Korean volunteers choose their roles, I will choose the remaining seat between them.
And I (or someone else) might ask more person to involve, at K8s Slack Korean L10n channel.

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jihoon-seo avatar jihoon-seo commented on September 23, 2024 1

Transferred my comment here to #45209 (comment) , in favor of Tim's comment.

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According to the table @Andygol posted, IMO Crowdin seems more appropriate over Transifex for now, since

  • k/w repo has so many files in a big tree of directories
  • it supports realtime markdown rendering (← my recent experience of Crowdin usage confirms this)
  • it lets contributors translate sentence-by-sentence (it means that contributors can get benefits of MT and TM in a unit of sentence)
  • it has marketplace (where we might find useful addons for this project)
  • ...

And FYI, the Kubesphere project is using both Prow and Crowdin, and there exist PRs that the Prow bot created to reflect Crowdin updates to the GitHub repo: see kubesphere/console#4167 .

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sftim avatar sftim commented on September 23, 2024 1

The best place to suggest or discuss which tool we might use is: #45209

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seifrajhi avatar seifrajhi commented on September 23, 2024 1

I want to like to volunteer as a TLMP tester and localization reviewer for Arabic (and I can also help with French also if needed).

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dies avatar dies commented on September 23, 2024 1

Hello everyone,

Serhiy from Crowdin

I was super happy to find this discussion! I just wanted to say that we're more than happy to issue an unlimited open source license for this project and support you as much as we can. I would need your Crowdin login or an organization name to issue a license.

I also wanted to suggest a Slack channel for quick communication with Crowdin, especially during the setup period. Please let me know if this would be helpful.

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dies avatar dies commented on September 23, 2024 1

We would welcome every single CNCF project with open arms!

is there any time box or additional info beyond what's on the

No, no restrictions on open source. We only need your Crowdin.com login to create a license on our end.

If this really takes off, would love to talk about a partnership for the rest of the CNCF projects 😍

I started a Slack channel and sent an invitation (probably to your personal email address 😬).

I want to recommend a quick call with our architects before the POC to make sure the experiment goes smoothly.

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tym83 avatar tym83 commented on September 23, 2024 1

Hi! I'd like to volunteer as a TLMP tester/localization reviewer for Russian.

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sftim avatar sftim commented on September 23, 2024 1

I've stepped back as a technical lead for the SIG; I'm willing anyway to help informally with this work.

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andriisoldatenko avatar andriisoldatenko commented on September 23, 2024 1

I am ready to participate as part of the Ukrainian localization team πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦.

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a-mccarthy avatar a-mccarthy commented on September 23, 2024

@sftim and @seokho-son

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sftim avatar sftim commented on September 23, 2024

I can cover the technical lead participation.

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a-mccarthy avatar a-mccarthy commented on September 23, 2024

is it mandatory that all the involved people in the localization be at least a reviewer?

@stormqueen1990 no, its not required ALL the members of a localization participate, but it would certainly be helpful to get to opinion of multiple people within a team. We are asking that there are at least 2 reviewers from one team and at least one contributor who's not a reviewer. So i think that works out to needing 3 or 4 people from one team who are able to contribute to the testing as either a reviewer or a contributor.

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rolfedh avatar rolfedh commented on September 23, 2024
  • Use cases/workflows tested
  • Tooling implementation requirements
  • Long term support requirements

Team,

I'm looking to enhance our project planning and info gathering on key areas like use cases, tooling requirements, and long-term support. My plan is to set up Crowdin and Transifex accounts for better preparation and insight.

Unless there are objections, I’ll get started on this soon. Thoughts?

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sftim avatar sftim commented on September 23, 2024

My plan is to set up Crowdin and Transifex accounts for better preparation and insight.

Unless there are objections, I’ll get started on this soon. Thoughts?

We should try to set up a Google Group to represent Kubernetes as owner of the SaaS tenancies there. Also, let's not actually start until we've confirmed we're kicking off the work and have resources in place.

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sftim avatar sftim commented on September 23, 2024

/lifecycle active

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rolfedh avatar rolfedh commented on September 23, 2024

We should try to set up a Google Group to represent Kubernetes as owner of the SaaS tenancies there.

Should I (or one of us) simply create the group, or would it be better to have someone with an "official" kubernetes.io-related email address do that?

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rolfedh avatar rolfedh commented on September 23, 2024

Also, let's not actually start until we've confirmed we're kicking off the work and have resources in place.

I'll hold off on creating the account that we use for this project.
What's the current timeline, or what next steps do we need to complete before kicking off the project?

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stormqueen1990 avatar stormqueen1990 commented on September 23, 2024

is it mandatory that all the involved people in the localization be at least a reviewer?

@stormqueen1990 no, its not required ALL the members of a localization participate, but it would certainly be helpful to get to opinion of multiple people within a team. We are asking that there are at least 2 reviewers from one team and at least one contributor who's not a reviewer. So i think that works out to needing 3 or 4 people from one team who are able to contribute to the testing as either a reviewer or a contributor.

Amazing! I think Brazilian Portuguese might be at (or close to) quorum then πŸ™‚

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a-mccarthy avatar a-mccarthy commented on September 23, 2024

Thank you all for your interest! I was planning to volunteer as comms lead as well.

Ideally we'd have 2 languages with a full set of testers (3 or 4 people). So far we have the following volunteers:

pt-br: @stormqueen1990, @zilmarr, @holgers66, @edsoncelio
ar: @seifrajhi
ko: @jihoon-seo
uk: @Andygol

Other volunteers:
TMPL admins: @rolfedh (needs 1 volunteer)
Tech lead: @sftim
comms lead: @a-mccarthy

If you would like to participate, please respond by Monday, April 22nd with your interest. If we are able to fill the volunteer positions, then we can start planning for a testing kick off date and the timelines within the testing window (about 1 month from the kickoff date).

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a-mccarthy avatar a-mccarthy commented on September 23, 2024

Hi @dies πŸ‘‹ thank you for reaching out. Great to hear about the open source license, once we have staffed the roles and decided to move forward we can chat more about setting that up.

I also wanted to suggest a Slack channel for quick communication with Crowdin, especially during the setup period. Please let me know if this would be helpful.

Do you mean a slack channel on a Crowdin slack? or some place else?

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dies avatar dies commented on September 23, 2024

Yes, a channel in our Slack where we can have our customer care team and engineers if needed and all the people involved from your side (project/community managers, engineers that might have technical questions)

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jeefy avatar jeefy commented on September 23, 2024

@natalisucks @sftim Does it make sense to direct folks, initially, to #sig-docs or perhaps #sig-docs-tools in the Kubernetes slack? Ignoring my pie-in-the-sky thoughts for other projects, this started as a Kubernetes initiative so I want to scope it that way and direct @dies and co to the right place.

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natalisucks avatar natalisucks commented on September 23, 2024

@jeefy Thanks for thinking about this, the best channel for this initiative, as agreed by @a-mccarthy and other leads of this work, will be #sig-docs-localizations. Given we'll have several localization teams involved in this test, we want to keep the radius of this work wide enough for them, but concentrated outside of larger SIG Docs channels. Thanks!

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kirkonru avatar kirkonru commented on September 23, 2024

Hi! I'd like to volunteer as a TLMP tester/localization reviewer for Russian.

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ArvindParekh avatar ArvindParekh commented on September 23, 2024

Hi folks! I'd like to volunteer as a TLMP Tester/Localization Reviewer for Hindi.

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rolfedh avatar rolfedh commented on September 23, 2024

Hi @a-mccarthy, I hope you're doing well. I wanted to check in on the current status of resourcing for the TLMP testing project. Could you provide an update on when we might expect the official go-ahead? Your guidance will be greatly appreciated as we plan our contributions. Thanks!

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