We're noticing that many flips get a strong consensus in long sessions, but people keep failing them in short. That's because in long sessions you have a lot of time to figure out bad flips and you also get to change your vote AFTER you see the keywords.
The fact that you can change your vote once you know the words allows more weak or even no consensus flips to get strong consensus.
Keeping the process in two steps (first vote, then report) is good, but only while not allowing to change your vote at step two.
Another option would be to show words in short sessions so challenged identities have at least a small chance to pass very bad flips that eventually make sense with words known and as a result get a consensus.

Dear idena team,

I want to suggest a feature that is very important and needs to be in the IDENA client. please add a report feature for bugs or the like experienced by the client. Because all this time reports have only been collected on the discord channel and in my opinion it is less effective. Maybe for my suggestion how to work for this feature is:

1. Obtain user IP address information
2. Getting what OS the user are used
3. Get the log file you want (example: node.log, error.log and output.log)
4. Let the user write complaints that are experienced in categories
5. accompanied by proof of image (image upload form)

it can all be sent directly from the client and you can find what problems occur more quickly and efficiently than before

that's all I want to say

thank you

Sometimes a client gives false current task that leads some users into thinking that they already sent flips and then they fail validation cause of it.

It seems that client doesn't "care" for actual status of node/address, but uses internal data to figure out if a flip has been submitted or not.

I suggest implementation of blockchain check during client startup to determine the actual state of current task.

Hi, flips not loaded in short session. Log:
idena_short.log

how about my suggestion?
made stable running in linux as root

OS: MacOS Catalina 10.15.4 (19E287)
Idena Client version: 0.12.3
Idena Node version: 0.21.0

Crash report:

panic(cpu 1 caller 0xffffff80088c310f): assertion failed: NETNS_REF_COUNT(res, flags) != 0, file: /AppleInternal/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/xnu-6153.101.6/bsd/skywalk/namespace/netns.c, line: 830
Backtrace (CPU 1), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff9af2f5b950 : 0xffffff80081215cd 
0xffffff9af2f5b9a0 : 0xffffff800825a3c5 
0xffffff9af2f5b9e0 : 0xffffff800824bf7e 
0xffffff9af2f5ba30 : 0xffffff80080c7a40 
0xffffff9af2f5ba50 : 0xffffff8008120c97 
0xffffff9af2f5bb50 : 0xffffff8008121087 
0xffffff9af2f5bba0 : 0xffffff80088c2c7c 
0xffffff9af2f5bc10 : 0xffffff80088c310f 
0xffffff9af2f5bc20 : 0xffffff800871d387 
0xffffff9af2f5bc80 : 0xffffff800871e130 
0xffffff9af2f5bce0 : 0xffffff8008513bda 
0xffffff9af2f5bd20 : 0xffffff80085563b3 
0xffffff9af2f5bdc0 : 0xffffff8008556f35 
0xffffff9af2f5be20 : 0xffffff80086d45c5 
0xffffff9af2f5be60 : 0xffffff80086e672e 
0xffffff9af2f5bf40 : 0xffffff80087875f7 
0xffffff9af2f5bfa0 : 0xffffff80080c8206 

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: idena-go

Mac OS version:
19E287

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 19.4.0: Wed Mar  4 22:28:40 PST 2020; root:xnu-6153.101.6~15/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: AB0AA7EE-3D03-3C21-91AD-5719D79D7AF6
Kernel slide:     0x0000000007e00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8008000000
__HIB  text base: 0xffffff8007f00000
System model name: iMac17,1 (Mac-B809C3757DA9BB8D)
System shutdown begun: NO
Panic diags file available: YES (0x0)

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During LongSession I have some flips without keywords. The app says that they are loading but nothing changes with time passes usually. What is the reason for this and what should I do with such flips?
I guess I have 3 options:
choose Both relevant
choose Report
choose Submit answers (w/o Relevant or Report button being pressed).

Currently some humans, even the old age ones, get no invites cause of bad flip posters that impact their score.

What was meant to be an advantage for humans became a source of frustration for many of them.

So instead of having a minimum score to be eligible for an invite, I propose a different solution.

Each human should always get at least 1 invite, no matter which score he/she has.

Second invite should be spread among higher score humans (and maybe also verified), the way it is now.

So a human with 92% would always get an invite, but a human with 95% would get 2.

That way we have incentive to keep human status even with barely human percentage.

Idena website and explorer are down.

Can we have cloudflare to avoid this?

1. Have 2 remote nodes (A and B) which both have tasks to create 3 flips.
2. Launched client with connection to node A with it's API key.
3. Created and submitted a flip and closed client with connection to node A.
4. Launched client with connection to node B with it's API key.

Now I see that node B's task is only 2 flips left and 1st flip is from the node A.

Client version: 0.8.3
Node version: 0.19.1

I can't find any proper technical documentation for Idena, as well as whitepaper or yellowpaper.
When is this going to be released?

I have an sugestion for idena blockchain, i hope you hear my suggestion, because an people if want create some exchange may helped get verified wallet

Bad flips are everywhere nowadays. They put everybody's score in danger of being randomly and
unfairly lowered. You can be even killed by a bad flip. At any given epoch the network contain around 50% of newbies who are afraid to report bad flips cause they don't sure if it is right thing to do and that it won't backfire on them somehow. So, in my opinion the good way to mitigate that problem would be lowering the report barrier for a flip from current 66% of a committee members to 33% or at least 50%. Otherwise there is no motivation to create good flips - you'll get your reward unconditionally. Though, you still need a way to somehow punish guys who report all flips they see just for fun.

Recently I've noticed some flips being made with hardcore porn images. I don't want my kids looking at those while solving flips.

Reporting those images is useless because those flips are already shown (and some flips like that don't even get reported which is puzzling and worrying me).

But there are ways to discard such images during flip creation/submission directly from client.

Latest release of Idena Desktop shows an error when trying to view archived flip.
I suppose there was a change in formatting with old vs newly made flips and, as a result, older ones can't be viewed.

Snippet of log when error occurs:

{"level":50,"time":"2020-07-03T19:05:06.336Z","pid":95956,"os":"win32 10.0.18363","msg":"Cannot read property '2' of undefined","stack":"TypeError: Cannot read property '2' of undefined\n at file:///C:/_next/static/gDd9RTOU1-rwfwTGpSNxb/pages/flips/view.js:1:1780\n at Array.map ()\n at E (file:///C:/_next/static/gDd9RTOU1-rwfwTGpSNxb/pages/flips/view.js:1:1736)\n at Gi (file:///C:/_next/static/chunks/framework.863892844f7f82998c77.js:1:58360)\n at Ua (file:///C:/_next/static/chunks/framework.863892844f7f82998c77.js:1:67258)\n at ko (file:///C:/_next/static/chunks/framework.863892844f7f82998c77.js:1:106135)\n at xu (file:///C:/_next/static/chunks/framework.863892844f7f82998c77.js:1:97413)\n at wu (file:///C:/_next/static/chunks/framework.863892844f7f82998c77.js:1:97338)\n at du (file:///C:/_next/static/chunks/framework.863892844f7f82998c77.js:1:94340)\n at file:///C:/_next/static/chunks/framework.863892844f7f82998c77.js:1:45622","type":"Error","v":1}

For the explorer sign-in demo, the desktop app is not resolving/displaying the favicon file correctly anymore.

Hello!

One of my invitees didn't pass last validation because he didn't sync his app in time before the validation started despite the fact that he started syncing like an hour before it. At first syncing was ok, but towards the end it had slowed down significantly. Here is the screenshot of the moment:

Please tell me if you need any log files for the further investigation. Windows 7, 64 bit.

A user failed his/her validation cause short session was 'missing'.

Logs show that client was 19 seconds behind node, so even though client submitted short answers 16 seconds before deadline, node sent the 'short answers submitting request' 3 seconds after the deadline.

Our suggestion is that client checks/syncs time with remote time server and (for remote nodes), also warns if node time is out of sync with client updated time (local nodes will already be in-sync with client).

Many people are reporting issue when they want to maek or submit flips.
Is there any real solution for them.
Fresh install is not working
Started to happen after client version 0.13.2 and 0.13.3

One of the LOG file by member:
log file.txt

https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic/91632
https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic/91485
https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic/91400
https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic/91153
https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic/91100

Latest client updates 0.13.1 and 0.13.2 are not good and have bugs.
Lot of people reporting issues and not being able to send flips.

Renaming or deleting flips.json is not working.

"Cannot read property 'every' of undefined" with 0.13.2

Generated invites can be, and are being, sold. To prevent this as much as possible, the whole invite generation process could be discarded. Leaving only the possibility in client to activate a node address.

The user that wants to be invited, tells the user that invites, only his node address. The user that invites inputs that address into his client and activates the identity of the user that wants to be invited.

That way it's more likely that a new user is already running a node and will not simply waste an invite and you can't sell an invite because you could only sell the nodekey and that does not make any sense since the seller of course knows it.

Hi, I saw two yaml files in the assets of releases which include checksums for win and mac executables. Would you also publish the checksum for deb packages (which I didn't find along with the downloads)?

how to run testnet for test the wallet? could anyone help to doc it please?

Few PRs are marked on error because of this test which is failing.
I'm a bit new to know how to fix it, so I created an issue

Whether you turn mining status off or on in the Wallet tab the transaction shows it as changing your mining status to off.

Client version: 0.12.3
Node version: 0.21.0
OS: MacOS Catalina 10.15.4 (19E287)

My linux app always stays 0.0.1 and I don't receive any update notifications. Is it ok to use it for validations? As for the node it is being updated regularly and with notifications.

When client with Human status creates both invites in succession, both invitation codes are the same.
If a user changes tab in menu and comes back to Contacts to create second invite, invitation code changes as it should.

Win 10, after updating client to 0.13.1 while trying to submit flip, i got toast:
"flip is too big, max expected size 614400, actual 767817"
I have 4 jpg images all sum up to 40kb, they are attached. I have added them from my PC. Did not try add from google or paste image.
Client log shows nothing interesting. I have tried deleting flips.json and submitting again, got same message.

images.zip

I am usually finished within 6-8 Minutes with short session as well as long session - and now i would like to start making new flips allready, while long session is still running. I wonder if it could be possible to change protocol that way that new keywords for next epoch are allready generated and distributed after short session during long session? I guess many newbies will make the mistake to create flips during that time anyway and get frustrated later when they realise that it was wasted effort.

Hello,

As I was inspecting your repository, I noticed that there isn't a license specified in a file such as LICENSE.md. Adding a license will help with encouraging contributions, letting contributors know how their work will be distributed, as well as clarifying the process for redistributions (such as mine on Arch Linux's AUR, which just attempts to build from master).

Thanks!

In the previous version after executing 'npm install dist' and 'npm run dist' you would get AppImage file created which is easily could be run in Manjaro. But I can't run .deb files on it. Is there another way to run the program there?

Guy reported having this issue insufficient flips
https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic/92951

Log file:
idena.log

EDIT:
Candidate ....

Some data in website and Pitchdeck should be updated with fresh information.
https://idena.io/?view=faq
https://idena.io/IdenaPitchDeck.pdf

See total amount and amount in the Recent transactions view:

I'd suggest to write them in the standard form.
Client Version 0.8.3

There is issue with some words that can be used for making NSFW flips.
Few examples:
{name: 'rape', desc: 'rape, violation, assault, ravishment'},
{name: 'orgy', desc: 'orgy, debauchery, saturnalia, bacchanal, riot'}

We know some kids and religious people may can be affected and report flips.

A trigger captioning "What is a good flip?"

Which triggers the overlay shown below

--
Will you be open to considering if the community sends this add into the desktop client via PR?

hi there, i have more suggestion for idena wallet before validation section started, please add some preparation section before validation start for improve lag. My suggestion is lock / deny blockchain transaction like Send DNA, Create & Submit Flips and Activate invite code will locked in 5 Minutes before validation section start. Because i got some problem in my node before, blockheight increase significant before validation start and make my node down. I hope my suggestion will readed and understandly, thanks

We really need closed client/node testing before public release.
Many releases have some stupid bugs.

Issue with latest release:
- Clicking on view flip crashes the client
format of the flips is changed, but no reformat or wipe for old entries!
more detials: #361

PROPOSITION:
Closed group of smart technical members like Busimus, Mahmoud etc. test releases before main release!

Tried to install client on win10 several times and after "succesfull" instalation idena works, but when i close the applicanion i have to install it again and again.
In theory app should be in %appdata%\local\programs\Idena folder, but i don't have such folder....
I've installed idena on win7 and everything was fine... don't know what should i do...

Hello, I've tested 0.7.2 version, editor is great :)
Wanted to see how the auto resize feature is working. I saw that pictures that have large resolution are resized to 440px width. Tested with some random png picture from the internet.
Then I wanted to see what was its size in kb. I copied base64 from flips.json to the html and made img, saved it to check it's size in kb.
Even in that resolution, png had 263kb and client allowed me to submit it.
When I converted it to jpg, it had only 38kb.

If there is a chance, maybe introduce some "auto convert to jpg" feature.

Currently when using the google feature to get images there is a warning on the bottom:

IMHO this makes this feature useless as how should I check the usage rights in this view. Ideally this picker would already filter for the correct rights like when using the web search:

So then also this warning could be removed and it would be much easier to create flips

If during validation client somehow "freezes", it cannot submit short session answers, leaving user with failed validation.

Possible hotfix is "resetting" client if combination of following events happens (if time left allows it):

Cause at the same time, node was running just fine with 18 peers, so it's not a problem with node:

After client restart, ceremony moved forward but it was too late for short session answers:

Seems like all webkit based browsers work to open idena-client and handle callback.
Firefox, however, throws off this error:

Add the possibility to notify the user if his balance changed. Basically scanning for new SendTx transactions.

After trying to sign in with client, following error occurs:

I asked in the chat and people told me that I should report unclear flips - but it is not mentioned here:

also not clear what the "also" means here. I think this list should mention all conditions when one should report

The UI is quite confusing there. It allows to create flips - but the submit screen does not allow to submit. This is ok but it should state why it is not possible to submit - currently this is very confusing for new users.

Since many submitted flips have the same image either as a starting one or an ending one on both sides, which can lead to some confusion with bad flips, I suggest that client disables putting first image on the left as first image on the right and last image on the left as last image on the right, so that with flip order of 1, 2, 3, 4, the shuffled side cannot be 1, X, X, X nor X, X, X, 4.

Hi idena lovers and Development team

I suggest to increase the short session timing by adding additional two minutes in case there is a bad flips appear so you have more time to think ,,that definitely will affect all candidate and newbies even verified identities .humans has nothing to do with short session even they can skip it .
in short words :

• Extend short session by + 2 minutes
• Reduce long session timing to 16 minutes .
  I am an affected newbie failed in a short session due to bad flips with almost 97 % in long session
  Please support .
  Thanks

All candidates now have this screen and can't make any flips

https://t.me/IdenaNetworkPublic/92098
Temporary workaround is made by Krucifer (save as .json file)

{
	"flips": [
		{
			"id": " ",
			"pics": [
				"data:image/png;base64,iV",
				"data:image/png;base64,iV",
				"data:image/png;base64,iV",
				"data:image/png;base64,iV"
			],
			"compressedPics": [
				"data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j",
				"data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j",
				"data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j",
				"data:image/jpeg;base64,/9j"
			],
			"editorIndexes": [
				0,
				1,
				2,
				3
			],
			"nonSensePic": " ",
			"nonSenseOrder": -1,
			"order": [
				1,
				3,
				2,
				0
			],
			"hint": {
				"id": 0,
				"words": [
					{
						"name": " ",
						"desc": ""
					},
					{
						"name": " ",
						"desc": " "
					}
				]
			},
			"type": "archived",
			"createdAt": 1590500615847,
			"modifiedAt": 1590586862988
		}
	]
}

Originally posted by @jugi1 in #350 (comment)