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devicetree-specification's Issues

MIME type for DeviceTree dts files

We got a request to resolve a problem where *.dts files are associated with (only) DTS audio in the shared-mime-info database: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xdg/shared-mime-info/-/issues/173

DTS audio is properly registered in the IANA media types registry with the *.dts extension: https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/audio/vnd.dts

The only doc I was able to find related to DeviceTree media types is https://pygments.org/docs/lexers/#lexers-for-devicetree-language but associating *.dts with a C source code media type would likely be a source for problems.

Do you have a suggestion or a ready specification that would tell the media type to use with these DeviceTree files?

Rewrite the specs in Kaitai Struct and generate the text docs from KS specs

Kaitai Struct is a declarative language for documenting binary formats. It has an advantage that the specs can be compiled into code parsing the format in various programming languages, that can be just used in the programs.

Currently Kaitai Struct compiler doesn't have a backend generating rst docs. But since the language is YAML-based, the code generating the rst docs can be implemented out of the compiler.

It is suggested to

  1. rewrite all the parts of specs into ksy
  2. design a template language for docs to include parts of ksy specs
  3. generate the docs from templates containing the text that doesn't go into the specs and the specs.

Clarify ranges property

From a conversation on the devicetree-spec mailing list, I asked about how the length element in the ranges property is suppose to be used. A few questions asked (quoted response is from David Gibson):

If a child has a reg outside of the length is it not translated via the range?

Yes.

What if the reg size of a child node overlaps the length? Do we translate up to the point the length specifies?

I believe so, yes.

If #size-cells of the node is 0, does that mean no length element?

I think so, yes, although I don't think I've ever seen a 'ranges'
property on a #size-cells = 0 node.

So if we update the spec, we should clarify such concerns w/ranges.

chapter2-devicetree-basics.rst refers to missing Appendix A

chapter2-devicetree-basics.rst and chapter1-introduction.rst refer to an Appendix A which does not exist:

".. note:: Most devicetrees in :abbr:DTS (Device Tree Syntax) (see Appendix A) will not
contain explicit phandle properties. The DTC tool automatically inserts
the phandle properties when the DTS is compiled into the binary DTB
format."

In chapter2-devicetree-basics.rst I would have expected an example comparing the device-tree before DTC translation without phandle and with phandle after translation.

dma-ranges null and not present not well defined

If a node has ranges but not dma-ranges what should be done?

  • assume same translation as ranges? assume 1:1 translation?

Likewise is dma-ranges is present but has no value, does that mean direct mapped even when there is a ranges present?

[Question] Interrupt Mapping Example

Hi, I'm reading Interrupt mapping example (page20).
I see in sample device tree, it has following content:

interrupt-map = <
/* IDSEL 0x11 - PCI slot 1 */
0x8800 0 0 1 &open-pic 2 1 /* INTA */
0x8800 0 0 2 &open-pic 3 1 /* INTB */
0x8800 0 0 3 &open-pic 4 1 /* INTC */
0x8800 0 0 4 &open-pic 1 1 /* INTD */
/* IDSEL 0x12 - PCI slot 2 */
0x9000 0 0 1 &open-pic 3 1 /* INTA */
0x9000 0 0 2 &open-pic 4 1 /* INTB */
0x9000 0 0 3 &open-pic 1 1 /* INTC */
0x9000 0 0 4 &open-pic 2 1 /* INTD */
>;

Then, In the explain section, there is an example as bellow:

To perform a lookup of the open-pic interrupt source number for INTB for IDSEL 0x12 (slot 2), function 0x3, the following steps would be performed:
The child unit address and interrupt specifier form the value <0x9300 0 0 2>
...................................

I wonder why it is <0x9300 0 0> for unit address? Compare with the sample device tree, It's 0x90000 not 0x9300? Do I misunderstand some concept?

Codify array values syntax

Currently dtc happily eats both:

val = <0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7>;

in the same way as:

val = <0 1>, <2 3>, <4 5>, <6 7>;

so long as the -cells values match.

Requiring the second format (one entry per <...>) would allow to dynamically derive -cells values and reduce boilerplate (by e.g. defaulting to #address-cells == #size-cells == <2> when ARRAY_SIZE(reg) is a multiple of 4 etc., while still allowing to manually override it where it's not obvious.

Architecture bindings?

dma-coherent refers to "architectures which are by default non-coherent for I/O"
dma-noncoherent refers to "architectures which are by default coherent for I/O"

...but nothing in the DT spec spells out which architectures those might be. For example, the ACPI spec does talk about x86 being considered cache-coherent by default, and 32-bit Arm being considered non-cache-coherent by default.

In general, there is no section the spells out ISA implications for a device tree. Note that this would be different from "device bindings"...imho the ISA bindings totally make sense to be part of this document, but they ought to be in some document for sure. Curiously enough there's still PowerPC lingo in the DT spec - i.e. references to WIMG, e.g. in section on /memory node (with no definition of WIMG bit meaning... maybe this should be either made generic or updated to include another architecture as an example)

Invalid MAC address in example

"Table 4.9: mac-address Property" contains an example for the use of this property:

mac-address = [ 01 02 03 04 05 06 ];

This MAC address is a group address, therefore cannot be used as source address.

Please replace the 01 by a even value, e.g.:

mac-address = [ 02 03 04 05 06 07 ];

which constitutes a locally administered address.

Build latexpdf error

Hi i have a error while creating the latexpdf Version
Here are my Log:

bd@build:~/devicetree-specification$ make latexpdf
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Publish html version of the spec

It would be nice to publish an html version of the spec on the website at a stable, versioned, url (make html seems to work quite well). This is useful for cross referencing specific sections of the spec from other documents and for general online discussion; something that is less easy to do on PDF documents.

Provide more information about RAM from the bootloader

Qualcomm currently does

/memory[@somewhere]/ddr_device_type =

  • 5 - LPDDR3 # 3X never existed, 3E (3 overclocked) - did
  • 6 - LPDDR4
  • 7 - LPDDR4X
  • 8 - LPDDR5
  • 9 - LPDDR5X

with 1, 2, 3, 4 presumably going to LPDDR(1 / 2_S2 / 2_S4 / 2N), though no sources prove that

Introducing a common property to propagate that information to the operating system seems rather useful. In this Qualcomm-specific example, many on-SoC IP blocks need different settings based on the DDR type.

Memory terminology WIMG and VLE used w/o reference or definition

The reserved memory section uses the terms WIMG and VLE.
The WIMG is expanded a bit but VLE is not.
I presume these are PowerPC terms. (a quick google reinforces this assumption.)
Do these statements only apply to PPC or are we suppose to translate to Arm and RISC-V?

These terms should be in the "definition of terms" and an spec reference included.
If PPC terms, clarify how they should be handled for other architectures.

This repo has both master and main branches

This repo has both master and main branches. The main branch is ahead of master by 2 commits.
This is very confusing.
The master branch should be deleted to avoid confusion.
If the github rename master function is used [1] then support for a master alias is done.
My understanding is:

  • make master and main in sync
  • delete main
  • rename master to main using github control panel as described below

[1] https://github.com/github/renaming

Interrupt parent phandle typos in interrupt-map example

In the PCI interrupt-map example, &open-pic should be &open_pic (with a label added to /soc/open-pic, which can't have - in it), or &{/soc/open-pic}.

Unrelated, and not sure I've read closely enough: Why is the interrupt parent unit address included in interrupt-map? The phandle already points to its node, so it seems redundant.

enhancement: addition of /delete-label/

Currently it is not possible to delete label independently from deleting entire node.

This is very inconvenient because it does not allow to move labels from node to node, when needed, without redefining
the node again.

References to labels may be used for property values (or as phandles), but when referenced node needs to be changed, due to lack of /delete-label/, it is required to remove property referencing the label for each node and then add it back referencing node with different label. This could be much easier if label could be removed from one node and added to another.

Generic node name for vibration motor / haptics

Hi, there are increasingly kernel drivers for vibration motors added for phones and similar devices. In mainline Linux vibrator, haptics and haptic-feedback (and maybe more?) is used so it's probably a good idea to standardize a name in the devicetree spec.

vibrator is currently used 19 times, haptics 3 times and haptic-feedback 4 times.

I'd be happy to submit a PR adding this to the spec but I'm not sure which of the names is preferred - or even a completely different one.

Property inheritance

Should something in the spec explicitly say properties are never inherited?

2.3.5 says "The #address-cells and #size-cells properties are not inherited from ancestors in the device tree. They shall be explicitly defined", but that makes it sound like /some/ properties could be inherited.

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