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License: GNU General Public License v3.0
HiddenVM — Use any desktop OS without leaving a trace.
License: GNU General Public License v3.0
It would be nice if there was a version of HiddenVM that has the packages already included, so you don't need an Internet Connection in order to use HiddenVM. It would be perfect for offline only users as it is possible there might not be Internet access, or is to risky to use the Internet. The packages could be in a new folder and copied and installed once HiddenVM is run, instead of doing apt-get over the Internet.
Hi,
I currently have an issue with audio playing inside my Whonix workstation. To test that this was not a Whonix only issue, I tried several other Linux distros and was unable to get sound working on any. It seems to me that the problem isn't in the virtual machine itself but
All Host Audio Driver/Audio Controller combinations in Virtual Box have been tested and unfortunately none were able to get sound working. I'm unsure how else I can troubleshoot this and a couple of friends reported the same issue. Is someone able to please help?
Thanks for all the great work on HiddenVM!!! :)
Was just curious if pulling the flash drive while powered on would have any adverse effects, or if everything would still be encrypted and 100% safe?
Thanks in advance!
Unfortunately HiddenVM is not usable anymore because of constantly crashes. After the launch HiddenVM in Tails, the session always crashes after a short period of usage (5 or 10 minutes). This issue has occurred for at least a year now. It looks like it won't change in the near future. For me, it is not possible to continue the usage of HiddenVM anymore. That is very sad, because I loved the project so far. I am curious what other people think and if there are others with same issues. However good luck for the future and thanks for the effort you put into this.
Like one of the previous issue opened. I want to thank you for this amazing tool.
VirtualBox is still vulnerable to Spectre and Meltdown which makes using it extremely dangerous for privacy activists, whistleblowers and people in countries where the internet is censored. Especially for people like me in China. It is well documented that the Chinese Communist Party will go to great lengths to control information and jail whistleblowers every chance they get. Maybe you can switch to KVM instead of VirtualBox and like the other contributor said, make another beta repository for KVM HiddenVM in the meantime while you're testing it. KVM provides better hardware performance than VirtualBox. I'm adding a link from Whonix's official website suggesting this change.
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM#Why_Use_KVM_Over_VirtualBox.3F
That being said, I really appreciate the hard work you have put into this tool. You have given the oppressed like me a great piece of software to protect us.
Thanking you.
Installation halted and log said:
[HiddenVM] [launch-log-progress.sh] Reset sudo timeout policy
I'm guessing it was just taking long than expected. Is there someway to increase the sudo timeout period or at least check and re-request root if necessary?
Edit: Upon re-executing the appimage, the process succeeded
Doesn't HVM having access to clearnet along side tor make it vulnerable to timing attacks ?
Hi,
Firstly thank you for a terrific tool and the capability you're providing for us.
I've been thinking about KVM for HiddenVM as a superior and safer method over VirtualBox.
It's now well documented with guides for how to set up Windows, OS X and Linux on KVM without problem, as well as Whonix if you want a Torified OS on KVM.
Whonix's wiki provides some good reasons why to not rely on VirtualBox for long-term future:
https://www.whonix.org/wiki/KVM#Why_Use_KVM_Over_VirtualBox.3F
I also read that KVM can provide much better hardware performance vs. VirtualBox in a Linux host environment.
Would you consider KVM?
Thanks
Hello I have a host machine with secureboot enabled. Tails works fine, but when I run hiddenvm and attempt to start a VM in virtualbox I get an error saying roughly "The vboxdrv kernel module is not loaded" and it asks me run vboxconfig. Of course if I run vboxconfig it also errors out saying "If your system is using EFI Secure Boot you may need to sign the kernel modules (vboxdrv, vboxnetflt, vboxnetadp, vboxpci) before you can load them." If I disable secureboot things work fine. Is there a way around this without disabling secureboot?
Hi !
I am getting the following error when importing the whonix appliance.
Versions:
Whonix-XFCE-15.0.1.4.8.ova
HiddenVM-1.5.0-x86_64.AppImage
Can your disclose with more detail what you mean with the following installation step ?
"..Create and mount a deniable, secure storage environment on internal or external media such as a VeraCrypt volume..."
I have tried with LUK filesystem, Veracrypt hidden volume (device), Veracrypt hidden volume (file), trying both on a partition, on a file and on a single disk for them.
I always get the following message when importing the appliance:
Failed to import appliance /home/clearnet/HiddenVM/Whonix-XFCE-15.0.1.4.8.ova.
Result Code: NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG (0x80070057)
Thanks for your awesome code,
Since I had update Tails to v.5.1.1 and HiddenVM to the version 1.26.1, when I open my Whonix Workstation VM and goes on Tor Browser I frequently saw weird color graphic artifacts on a part of the window. It appear and disappear randomly as I used the the browser. When I used the browser to open website like I did normally it randomly crash (It seam to happen more frequently as I open new tabs with new websites.)
Sincerely the crash is so frequent that it just make it impossible to browse on internet on Whonix.
I never had that issue before the update and I tried on 2 different version of Whonix Workstation and both have the same exact problem, so I'm sure that it is not the machine who is the problem.
I have tried with 3D acceleration enabled and disabled and in both case the same issue.
For what I see, the visual glitch happen with other app, like the file browser, specially when I move the window, but doesn't seam to crash like Tor Browser do all the time. I can still watch a video on VLC without issue or continuous visual issue, so I don't really know what's caused that weird issue exactly.
If I manage to find something I will reply at that issue and give you more information.
Hi guys , I have some simple questiion to ask I havent been able to find something similar anywhere else : After installing my HiddenVM virtualbox from my hidden volume on my USB , everything works fine , then I am asked to import the whonix .ova file from the virtualbox menu , but searching every folder including the one in which it is supposed to be , no .ova nor .ovf displayed anywhere , however when I search for them outside of my virtuabox menu (file explorer) , they are of course still there in the same hidden volume of USB...
When I check the permission of thoses files , I cant change them from "None" to "read or write" , even using root cmd , would it be the reason my virtualbox cant see them ?
My partition format is FAT for this hidden volume on which I have installed whonix files and hiddenVM image.
My tails is installed on a second USB on which veracrypt was installed in a separate persistent volume from the tails OS , but I dont know how this could have a link with my virtualbox not detecting .ova or .ovf files on the other USB.
La bise !
I'm at a loss. Installation of HiddenVM v1.40 never completes. Tried multiple networks, wired, wireless, VPN, etc. Two different PCs. Different days. Never had this issue with prior versions. Running bootstrap.sh always ends with "Connection timed out"
running sudo apt-get update on tails prior does not change the result
HiddenVM.log
Hi,
I have been following this project for some time now. I notice some concerns about the usage of VirtualBox. The Whonix developers have given some good reasons against the usage of VirtualBox. I understand you guys are in process of porting the project to Python a new programming language which is a huge undertaking. Since HiddenVM already uses bash why not switch out VirtualBox fpr KVM (virt-manager) while you guys are working on the new Python release. This would address the main concern regarding the issue.
I noticed this project from a reddit post which said that this project brings the HiddenOS feature of veracrypt to life which is good news for vulnerable people like the Chinese OP who brought up this issue. That being said please don't take this as a criticism of your project. I am only one of the many people concerned about this issue.
Thank you for your time.
It's not an issue, I just wanted to say your project is super cool and thank you! Sorry aha.
Please provide the AppImage file for download, not inside a zip or other file.
The reasons are explained at
https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/wiki/Creating-AppImages/cc2441518975caca23e9ce2dba6f08a22c678d1e#common-mistake
Thank you very much.
This software relies on packages online, which can be tampered with during transit. A verification system is highly recommended as soon as possible. Could start with SHA-512 then use GPG. Also when downloading from Github it would be great for security to be able to verify HiddenVM via GPG as this tool is included in Linux Tails.
The following is how i noticed. It gave me the following error when i tried to start my virtual system: The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver is either not loaded or not set up correctly. Please try setting it up again by executing
'/sbin/vboxconfig'
as root.
Which i did, however it didn't work due to some permission problems.
It failed and told me to use dmesg to find out why. When i used dmesg i saw what it did in the background.
I picked two messages out of many:
audit: type=1400 audit(1651914430.711:1128): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="torbrowser_firefox" name="/home/amnesia/.cache/thumbnails/large/3678dc849747c84908498dd948db8f71.png" pid=10995 comm="pool-firefox"
requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
Dropped outbound packet: IN= OUT=wlan0 SRC=i removed the adress DST=i removed the adress LEN=48 TC=0 HOPLIMIT=255 FLOWLBL=762031 PROTO=ICMPv6 TYPE=133 CODE=0 UID=0 GID=0
So it looks like it sent files from my cache to some address.
Like why does a script that is supposed to change settings open cache files and sends them somewhere?
This would be perfect for me, if you could toggle on TOR/or not. So the user can decide if they want to use Tor with the VM or not. This is possible with whonix due to the way it was created, but not with windows, ubuntu, etc.
Is there a simple way to change this in the code? so that Tails can access TOR before entering the VM?
When I executed the appimage, I got an error because /media/amnesia
did not exist. I am not sure why. I am using a TAILS USB that has a persistent volume, although I did not unlock the persistent volume this time (as per the README). I did sudo mkdir /media/amnesia
and re-ran the appimage and it worked fine. So, maybe throw an if-statement in there and create the directory if it doesn't already exist?
Im wondering how can i create a secure veracrypt hidden volume on a SSD, cuz from what i know if u delete files on the hidden volume, an attacker could see that u have a hidden volume because of TRIMS.
Host: Tails 4.20
Guest: Whonix 15.0.1.9.3
Appliance: HiddenVM v1.15
Virtualization: default (doesn't matter from my tests)
Audio Device: AC97 (default)
Host Audio: Alsa
Variables:
Each reinstall I ran: apt update && dist-upgrade
before closing
Host:
Standard sound card in use.
Didn't have a problem until post tails update.
Previous versions worked just fine.
Audio device is current and plays speaker-test as well as settings front left/front right.
Guest:
Playing media from VLC or speaker-test results in erie sound due to dropping audio every other interval.
OpenBSD sndio option in VLC preference->audio fixed the audio dropping on VLC restart.
After reboot no amount of debugging or settings manipulation or restarting or anything provides audio (including messing around with VLC settings).
No audio through alsa or pulse.
Research:
gstreamer-plugins-good recently updated and someone complained recently about their KVM qemu setup being negatively affected.
Common front-page resolutions and regenerating the config file doesn't work.
Whonix recommends virtualbox 6.1.22 https://www.whonix.org/wiki/VirtualBox/XFCE .
HiddenVM gives virtualbox 6.1.26.
HiddenVM.log
2021-08-01 07:06:06+00:00 [HiddenVM] [bootstrap.sh] Configure clearnet user, prog-id=16
No protocol specified
E: [pulseaudio] client-conf-x11.c: xcb_connection_has_error() returned true
I have discovered that by restarting the whole computer one or many times, or maybe it's opening whonix workstation FIRST before gateway, it eventually works. Not ideal.
If you need any logs or anything specific please feel free to ask.
Hi,
Is it OK to use Tor Project provided transport obfs4 bridges when connecting to Tor in Tails to reduce the chance of your ISP detecting you are using Tor? Will these Tor Bridges be used when you connect to Tor in Whonix Gateway and Workstation? Or are these bridges going to cause security problems. Or should they be used in the tor anonymizer connection wizard within Virtual Box - Gateway? Or should no bridges be used in the Hidden VM system?
Thanks
Would it be feasible/desirable?
Thanks!
Hello, first of all thank you and the whole team very much for your work on HiddenVM.
For some reason I cant launch VirtualBox, after executing the AppImage and installing it onto the encrypted hidden partition made using VeraCrypt. I instantly get the message, that VirtualBox shut itself down. Restarting it dosent help either. Did a couple fresh installations of tails and waited for several updates for both Tails and HiddenVM but that didnt help either. So I guess the problem is somewhere on my side. I wasnt able to find anything in the logs to help me out either.
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
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[sudo] password for amnesia: 2021-04-28 00:47:37+00:00 [HiddenVM] [bootstrap.sh] Set up permissions on amnesia mounts, prog-id=3
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Did you try the pulseaudio tcp module? It works but I'm not sure if there's any security issues with using it.
pactl load-module module-native-protocol-tcp auth-ip-acl=127.0.0.1
give virtualbox an environmental variable PULSE_SERVER=tcp:127.0.0.1
then something like
iptables -I OUTPUT -o lo -p tcp -m owner --uid-owner clearnet --dport 4713 -j ACCEPT
Would that be safe to use?
Thank you.
Thought this was an interesting project. I've done some similar things with Vagabond Workstation and wanted to mention it in case you hadn't seen it. I'm doing Torified VMs there as well.
Since the last update, using HiddenVM 1.33 and Tails 5.8, when using my VM, sometime the mouse randomly stop working on VirtualBox. The problem seem to happens really frequently, but I cannot find what action I do exactly who caused that issue to happens.
While the mouse stop working, the keyboard continue to work in the VM and the mouse is not frozen, but I cannot interact with anything on the entire VirtualBox (HiddenVM) app. The only way to fixed that issue is to close my VM. Once my VM is closed, the mouse start working again without issue and I can start back the VM and work on it for few minutes until the problem start again.
After looking on internet, it seem to be an issue between VitualBox and Wayland, but I actually can't find any real fixed to that issue currently, so I was wondering if there have a little something I can do, maybe a command or something I can do differently who would allow me to fixed temporarily that issue or to start the HiddenVM in a way who doesn't have that issue maybe?
If that can help, I run Whonix Workstation + Whonix Gateway VM on HiddenVM, and my Workstation is usually in full-screen.
Thank you
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