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I agree.
There are only two objects which represent a stop:
- public_transport=platform - that's where the passengers wait (this can be node, way, area and some also use MP beside the way)
- public_transport=stop_position - that's where the vehicle stops (this can only be a node on the way)
That's all what is allowed for route relations.
In addition to that:
public_transport=station is usually a building (represented by a node, way, area), as known with trains
public_transport=stop_area is an MP grouping all platforms and stop_positions of a vehicle type. So there can be more then one for the same location: one for buses, one for trains, one for subway - each can be assigned a different name.
It can also include amenities like ticket vending machines, benches, ...
public_transport=stop_area_group then groups all such stop_area in a single MP
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Ah, yeah, I think you are right. So it would be nice to have Relatify warn about this mis-tagging.
Yep, PTNA does print an error message
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Performing validation on other objects is not currently planned for Relatify. The absence of a bus stop is a sufficient indication that something is wrong. 😛
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I don't believe that's a valid case, and there may be some misunderstanding regarding the appropriate usage of this tag.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstation
The public_transport=station tag is used to identify a railway station, a bus station or any other kind of a public transport station. It will almost certainly be part of a public_transport=stop_area relation which will contain a number of public_transport=platforms, public_transport=stop_positions and other elements.
Meaning, that a station should contain separately mapped platforms. It's simply a large collection, a "station".
I have read:
- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport
- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:route%3Dbus
- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Buses
- https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Refined_Public_Transport
and none of them properly justify your use case but maybe I am missing something. Feel free to guide me in the right direction by providing me with tag documentation.
Perhaps @osm-ToniE could assist here, as you appear to have more experience in public transport knowledge.
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Ah, yeah, I think you are right. So it would be nice to have Relatify warn about this mis-tagging.
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Thank you @osm-ToniE 😃! This will help out a lot in future discussions, releases.
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