Wayland port? about core HOT 5 CLOSED

From what I understand from wayland, it is not possible to "port" wmutils to it. Due to wayland's design, it is not possible to use it without having a full compositor running, that would handle everything frol drawing windows to managing the clipboard. wmutils provides binaries around builtin X features, like moving a window on the screen by making call to the X server, which is running for every session. There is no such thing in wayland, as the "compositor" (synonym to "window manager" for X), act as the server itself.

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Thanks for your quick response. But even then, would an api/interface not allow one to connect to this server and give commands to it?

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To make it "work", you would have to write a full compositor, and have it listen to different commands on a socket. Basically, something like ratpoison. This is totally different from wmutils' design. Another idea would be to take an existing conpositor with an external API, and send commands to it. This is, again, different from our design and closer to what wmctrl is.

wmutils is a set of standalone tools one can use to manipulate windows without needing a full WM.

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But even then, would an api/interface not allow one to connect to this server and give commands to it

The smart people behind Wayland didn't think of creating a standardized API. I'm sure there a few third part projects going on, but even then essential tools people use with wmutils, like a hotkey daemon, screenshot program, notification popup program etc. etc. can't be used, because all that stuff depends on the compositor.

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The smart people behind Wayland didn't think of creating a standardized API. I'm sure there a few third part projects going on, but even then essential tools people use with wmutils, like a hotkey daemon, screenshot program, notification popup program etc. etc. can't be used, because all that stuff depends on the compositor.

Closing this as useless then. The more I hear about Wayland the more I doubt it will ever become a standard. Thanks for your great replies!

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