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annevk avatar annevk commented on May 28, 2024

Overall this looks good. However, do you have some data that supports investing more in WebSocket? Now there's WebTransport and streaming in fetch it's becoming kind-of niche so it would be good to know this effort is worth the ongoing maintenance cost.

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ricea avatar ricea commented on May 28, 2024

Chrome sees WebSockets used on 10% of page loads: https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/1149

For comparison WebTransport is still at 0.002% of page loads: https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3472

I think that's an indication of the time it takes to ramp up support for a new protocol. WebTransport can do a lot more than WebSocket, but it will be years before it is as easy to deploy. WebTransport is a powerful investment for the future, whereas WebSocketStream is a practical investment for the present.

Most (all?) major server-side environments have mature, solid WebSocket support.

WebSockets are widely supported by CDNs: https://www.cdnplanet.com/guides/websockets/#:~:text=without%20an%20origin%3F-,CDN%20comparison,-Yes

Interest in WebSockets is growing for some reason: https://insights.stackoverflow.com/trends?tags=websocket

Page load percentages for some vaguely related technologies:

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annevk avatar annevk commented on May 28, 2024

Thanks! I should have specifically asked for web developer interest as we're curious what adoption might look like. Per https://chromestatus.com/feature/5189728691290112 there's no indication this is desired?

And per https://issues.chromium.org/issues/41470216 the little feedback that was given seemed to desire a fix for backpressure on top of the existing API?

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tomayac avatar tomayac commented on May 28, 2024

For developer interest:

  • The Deno runtime has implemented the WebSocketStream interface.
  • A polyfill to use the API in current browsers exists.

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