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rblanck avatar rblanck commented on August 15, 2024 1

We support this request. The impact into Publisher business modells and their actual proccess inside the advertising infrastructure, especially in countries which have a strong direct business, are not fully discussed, although many of these proposals are intervening the current (direct) business flows.

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peligio avatar peligio commented on August 15, 2024 1

We are happy to support this and contribute more detailed work around it to help surface publisher needs with more clarity.

There are various strands of monetisation within these advertising sale types which may be impacted in varying ways by emergent proposals. Furthermore, this work is important to illustrate why these use cases are important to continue to support.

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darobin avatar darobin commented on August 15, 2024 1

Agreed, we can't solve advertising on the Web without addressing this.

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dmarti avatar dmarti commented on August 15, 2024 1

At a previous meeting we went over some requirements for lower-level functionality that helps enable various publisher ad models.

Those are focused on specific features, such as "log and report that a problem ad did not appear on a site after a publisher blocked it" and "do not show ads for direct competitors on the same page.

I am looking forward to discussing these issues from the type of deal point of view (top down in addition to bottom up) and will update as needed.

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TheMaskMaker avatar TheMaskMaker commented on August 15, 2024

@AramZS Amazing issue. 100% agree these things need more attention. This is I believe (someone tell me if I'm wrong or there is another list) the list referenced in the W3 meeting https://github.com/w3c/web-advertising/blob/main/support_for_advertising_use_cases.md to add publisher use cases. I've also been compiling my own publisher concern list and hope to make PRs soon.

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peligio avatar peligio commented on August 15, 2024

I was looking to break down the needs for this 'backgrounder' document mentioned in the first post by @AramZS and the below outline is what the ask looks like so far. A couple of questions for other contributors:

  1. This looks a lot like something that's been written many times before elsewhere (and internally at publishers), so is this something that can be sourced from an existing place or linked to?
  2. Is there any more detail/depth that would be interesting to add?

From this outline, then there would be more specific guidance on use cases, or further emphasis on existing ones.

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Publisher monetisation - Ad Sales

Advertising Sales Types

  • Direct

    • Why does it exist?
    • Importance moving forward
  • Programmatic

    • Why does it exist?
    • Importance moving forward
    • Deal Types
      • Open Marketplace (OMP)
      • Private Marketplaces (PMP)
      • Programmatic Direct/Guaranteed (PD/PG)
    • Auction bidding types
      • First price
        • Include note on ‘bid shading’
      • Second price

How bidding systems work in a multiple bidder & multiple provider system

  • Why the system works like this? (Including simple diagram)
  • What is the impact on both buy- and sell-sides?

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