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@HEXcube Budgie simply lacked theming capabilities back then. Everyone interpreted "transparent panel" as "ChromeOS". shrug.

Anyway, as for being "in the cold" - let's not speak on my behalf. If there are general improvements to be made to Budgie, then yes, I'll accept them. If however on the other hand people want to push changes to turn it into a Playskool UI, then no, I'll reject them. Depends entirely on the merit of the changes.

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I've moved all the talk of GTK themes to issue #6 because that's a different topic. On the icon side of things, something to remember is that all these themes have different levels of coverage, especially for application icons. I've drawn up a little table of all the ones brought up in this chat plus a few other common ones.

Obviously coverage isn't everything, but there's a very wide disparity in some of the themes being brought up. As new themes are brought up I'll just add them to this list (which you can link to from here) rather than making more comments.

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@snwh it's the number of icons in the apps direction of whatever size was most common. The command to do this was: cd /usr/share/icons/Some-Theme/48/apps && ls -1 | wc -l. As mentioned in the original comment it's not a good indicator of whether the icon theme is good, but worth taking note of before picking something like Papirus over something like Paper.

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added MaterialOS to the list

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Yeah, @HEXcube, admittedly - I started MaterialOS with @danielhickman and Pinbadge is a @crutchcorn production with some assistance from a few others that ended up helping later on. To be fair, Pinbadge is the most likely to have a maintainer again soon (me; didn't mean to stop. Just got swamped) as it's simple to maintain. MaterialOS, while it could have a maintainer (depending on the team's thoughts, and I know I'd be willing for this one anyways), it's not a guarantee.

Oh, another fun tidbit of info about Pinbadge; the development for that icon pack is promised to be rampant when started again. Those numbers reflect like 3 months of work (if even).

Lastly, it's worth noting that @ikeydoherty is NOT on the Material team; meaning that we'd be in the cold if we ever wanted to have changes pushed upstream to improve the DE to match the specs.

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@crutchcorn I remember earlier versions of Solus having a Chrome OS like look an feel. Then it got a style of it's own with Arc and Moka theme.

While I'm a fan of Material Design 😁, I'm not really sure if budgie-remix (or future Ubuntu Budgie) should follow a style entirely different from upstream Budgie. 😕 Selecting Material Design for icon theme alone (not for Widget theme) would be okay, I guess. ☺️

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For this cycle (16.04.x) we're staying on Moka icons and Arc GTK theme to follow the style of Solus 1.x. However, we were already discussing changing the icon theme for next release cycle:

• Numix Circle is a strong candidate. With the core Numix dev @Foggalong in our team, we have an added advantage
• Paper icon theme from Sam Hewitt (@snwh), the creator of Moka. @udara-u3 suggested Paper along with Adapta GTK theme for a complete Material Design style. But, I'm not really sure if we should adapt a fully Material style (though I like it a lot! 😄 )
• Other Material Design inspired icons (including Papirus). There's also Frosting icon theme by @crutchcorn. It's a continuation of Solus's original icon theme - Evopop.

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HOW DARE YOU???? (jk)
I would recommend not using Frosting at this time. Life has caught up with me and disallowed me time to work on it. Until my other teammates (@danielhickman and others), I can't see it getting too much more love soon (though I would love to come back to it when things slow in a few months)

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@crutchcorn Glad to have you in the discussion. ☺️ So Frosting isn't actively maintained at the moment, right? @fossfreedom is looking for a long term maintained icon and theme with good support for Budgie desktop. Numix seems to be most practical option at the moment. But now that Sam has resumed development of Paper, we're also considering that option. Either way, we're looking for a theme that's maintained for atleast the next LTS cycle.

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Yeah, I can't see Frosting taking a maintainer anytime soon either. Especially because I haven't explicitly written down the new icon guidelines yet.

Also, I'd like to claim BS from @Foggalong; Pinbadge is NOT a "common one". ;P

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I didn't know Pinbadge had that many icons! It's got an Android icon pack and a G+ community too. @crutchcorn and @ploctaux I see u guys are on the team . Even more reason to give it a try! ☺️

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@Foggalong where are you coming up with those numbers?

also, @spottech what have you done to my Paper icons?! :P

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@snwh nothing for now , I am left to zero . I work on papirus yet 😊

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@snwh Aah, so Papirus is derived from Paper icon theme. 😄 Had a look at Papirus' GitHub repo It says:

Modded and adaptive Paper icon theme for KDE distros.

It has a full theme suite too.

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how many apps materialos have?

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How could I forget MaterialOS! I've got the Android icon pack and CM12 theme installed on my Cyanogen fone. 😃 @ploctaux I see that you're on MaterialOS team too: ☺️

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@HEXcube Yeah, I agree with you. I'm a fan of Material Design too.. 😄 Nowadays Material design is trending everywhere, and It's also so nice. budgie-remix has to do own Style same as Solus did. 😄

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Everyone interpreted "transparent panel" as "ChromeOS". shrug.

@ikeydoherty I wasn't just the transparent panel. Solus' icon theme (now discontinued Evopop) had a Material look too! 😜 See:

Looking back, they do look good! 😍 I wouldn't mind seeing the next budgie-remix come with a Material icon theme. 😃

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@HEXcube which was long after Budgie had had the same look for god knows how long. The look of Budgie didn't change to suit the GTK theme.

Fwiw - even though personally I don't like material design anymore (it's yet another hip fad that everyone is obsessed with and takes the lowest common denominator design approach of the convergence crowd that I can't stand .... )

... Budgie looks pretty friggin sweet with Adapta + Paper Icons. Disable the internal theming in Raven for Budgie and the latest Adapta has almost complete support now.

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@ikeydoherty Did that already! ☺️ Had tested Adapta on budgie-remix to help @tista500 solve a compatibility issue with Tweak Tool and Budgie's Raven. See:

I previously did a few screenshots of Paper and Adapta on budgie-remix, but those show mostly GNOME Apps. Now that Adapta implemented proper Budgie support and @snwh resumed Paper developement, I'll update the screenshots soon. 😄

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I'm going to unsub from this thread, if you land on Paper you know where to find me.

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@snwh K sure! Will let u know if we choose Paper. ☺️

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covered by budgie-welcome - we can now switch to paper.

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