Revisit the Or datatype about cats HOT 8 CLOSED

+1 for option 2

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• -Or requires backticks. 👎
• \Or requires backticks and a double . 👎
• The L and R suffix on various types in scalaz-stream have never made me flinch.
• Let's hold onto Eenie and Meenie in case we make an Or4 so we can have Miney and Mo. :)
• Lifting from Scalaz bootstraps us faster and reduces the cognitive overhead for transitioning users, with the downside mentioned by @stew. I am neutral on this subject.

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I'll throw in my 2 cents.

1. I'd vote for something like LeftOr/RightOr, Lefty/ Righty, etc. These are only slightly more verbose than LOr/ROr, and I think they would be way easier for someone new to the library to recognize. I'd propose that we don't do something like Good/Bad. I say this because just last week I had two separate people tell me that they were thinking about using a disjunction but the left side wasn't going to be an error and they wanted to know if that was a bad idea. In my opinion that's a perfectly valid usage that I wouldn't want to discourage.
2. I don't have strong feelings on this.
3. Scalaz is a great library, but I don't think blindly lifting things from it is a great approach. I like the idea of questioning some design decisions, etc. I think it would be good to set up a list of principles/guidelines that direct decisions/implementations if possible.

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1. I think I like LeftOr and RightOr for now. Maybe we should try that and see how it feels?
2. I like the idea of encouraging people to use factory constructors to end up with the "right" types. But I think leaving public constructors can help make pattern matching more efficient, so I guess I'm leaning in that direction. We could put the case classes inside the companion to make them slightly less accessible if we wanted.
3. I think @travisbrown summed up my position pretty well in gitter: we should subject code from Scalaz to the same review process as anything else. In other words, we shouldn't blindly copy stuff over, but if there is a design that works we can definitely include it.

However I would like to be intentional about names, comments, and trying to keep things as modular as possible. I would encourage us to consider dropping methods that we aren't sure are needed -- we can easily add them back later. Let's not bring in the kitchen sink if we don't have to.

Anyway, just my 2¢.

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👍 to LeftOr and RightOr (and a stronger 👎 to Bad / Good or anything else that suggests an asymmetry beyond right-biasing).

I actually like the unpleasantness of -\/ and \/- in Scalaz, since it's a reminder that using them should require special justification. I can see the argument against them, though, and the redundancy / verbosity of LeftOr and RightOr could play kind of the same role (especially if they're in the companion object).

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I like LeftOr and RightOr but I would prefer they are defined in the companion object to limit their usage.

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I agree with the above. I'll rebuild this from a clean buffer as with LeftOr and RightOr and resubmit to for further conversation. It's a well-understood type, so it's a good one to help establish the principles and guidelines that @ceedubs mentions. Some specifics, while we're setting precedents:

• Monomorphic this match vs. polymorphism. A few people have or recall benchmarks that suggest monomorphism is more efficient, but @mpilquist points out that polymorphism permits more specific return types where applicable.
• Do we echo the Scalaz Functions and Instances trait structure, or do they all just go right onto the companion object?
• Subclasses in the companion object, or alongside, or it depends?

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Here's my feelings on this:

• I would leave this to the author's discretion. I think there are too many variables here to make a general rule -- there are cases where more specific return types are important or essential, there may be cases where performance differs, etc. In this case I think matching is fine.
• In algebra we separated out the functions (so they could be included in other companions too) but did not separate out functions. Previously my vague preference has been to leave things in the companion (except when hacking around implicit precedence). What do you all think?
• I think it depends. In this case I would say we should put them in the companion to discourage use, but I can imagine other cases where this wouldn't be true. Maybe in the companion should be the default location, without being a requirement?

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