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rsciriano avatar rsciriano commented on June 16, 2024

Hi @flodus,

Yes, you should redo the autotune for yourself.

To start the autotune I think you don't need to set the control_parameters to 0 but, when the process is finished, it is important to copy the calculated values to the yaml file and compile and upload the new firmware version.

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foltymat avatar foltymat commented on June 16, 2024

Hi @flodus, I have the same boiler and I was wondering - have you managed to run the code successfully with your setup?

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flodus avatar flodus commented on June 16, 2024

Hi @flodus, I have the same boiler and I was wondering - have you managed to run the code successfully with your setup?

Hello,
The code is running fine with my configuration... however I failed to configure the pid as I wanted. I don't have an air conditioner and the temperature doesn't come down fast enough for the autotune to give me a satisfactory result.
Especially since I also use a wood stove.
Everything else seems to be working fine.

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neforce avatar neforce commented on June 16, 2024

I've got crazy KP values from the autotune:

control_parameters:
kp: 0.95493
ki: 0.00041
kd: 562.59680

Livingroom heating takes about 2 hours for 1 degree (C) hotter. Are these normal values? Or isn't that impossible to day? Looks so high to me, if you look at the example, its about 559 points higher....

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foltymat avatar foltymat commented on June 16, 2024

Yeah, I got something similar with my autotune experiment, but the values were so off, that the heating started to act super weird.
Remember the simple translation for what those values mean.

kp: how big should each change be
ki. how often you want it updated? (above one would be multiple times a second, below 0 is once per minutes)
kd: how far ahead should it think?

I know it's not ideal but at least having the basic understanding helped me start with the fine tuning.
Eventually, I settled on kd: 50 ish

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neforce avatar neforce commented on June 16, 2024

Yeah, I got something similar with my autotune experiment, but the values were so off, that the heating started to act super weird. Remember the simple translation for what those values mean.

kp: how big should each change be ki. how often you want it updated? (above one would be multiple times a second, below 0 is once per minutes) kd: how far ahead should it think?

I know it's not ideal but at least having the basic understanding helped me start with the fine tuning. Eventually, I settled on kd: 50 ish

Do you have the same kind of heating variables? Like heating 2 hours for one degree increase of the living room (with all other radiators closed) ?

image

These are my stats now. Graphs at the bottom are from the last two hours.

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foltymat avatar foltymat commented on June 16, 2024

My situation is definitely a bit different as I have to switch heating zones thoughout the day. But in your example, yes, if I heat our main living space with everything else closed, it generally takes about an hour to hour and a half to heat it up by one degree. Definitely not the full two hours like in your place.

My current values:
kp: 0.5
ki: 0.01
kd: 30

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neforce avatar neforce commented on June 16, 2024

Thanks for your insights. I'll keep track of the current config a few (cold days now in Holland), and will change it to KD: 50 (10% of now), at the end of this week, and 'll monitor it again. Let's see if anything changes (especially to gas usage).

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