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I'm not 100% sure what you're saying, but I'm guessing you have fTelnet connecting to your own instance of fTelnetProxy, and then fTelnetProxy connecting to your BBS. And in your BBS log files you're seeing your own IP address instead of the IP address of the user who is connecting.

If that's right, then that's expected behaviour. The user connects to fTelnetProxy, which will see the user's real IP address. But then fTelnetProxy connects to your BBS, so that's why your BBS sees your own IP address.

I'm not a networking expert, but I don't believe there is any way around that. The best you can do is use something like I implemented in my last commit, where the BBS can send the telnet command "DO SEND-LOCATION" (not literally that text), and then fTelnet will reply back with the client's IP address.

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All the socket library files include the function of getting the clients IP
address and the port number on the clients.

On Monday, February 29, 2016, rickparrish [email protected] wrote:

I'm not 100% sure what you're saying, but I'm guessing you have fTelnet
connecting to your own instance of fTelnetProxy, and then fTelnetProxy
connecting to your BBS. And in your BBS log files you're seeing your own IP
address instead of the IP address of the user who is connecting.

If that's right, then that's expected behaviour. The user connects to
fTelnetProxy, which will see the user's real IP address. But then
fTelnetProxy connects to your BBS, so that's why your BBS sees your own IP
address.

I'm not a networking expert, but I don't believe there is any way around
that. The best you can do is use something like I implemented in my last
commit, where the BBS can send the telnet command "DO SEND-LOCATION" (not
literally that text), and then fTelnet will reply back with the client's IP
address.

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Sorry, not sure what you're referring to.

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@rickparrish I think he means that the BBS is showing CLIENT_IP, but that is showing his server's IP, not the actual client IP address.

@ptaylor2 unfortunately, that is what a proxy does, and it isn't setup to pass through your actual IP, it isn't part of telnet or rlogin as protocols. It MIGHT be possible to do a WHOIS-style lookup, but that would be a lot of work, and some BBS software wouldn't readily support it in the box.. synchronet would be an easy enough extension afaik.

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@tracker1 Yeah that's what I was assuming. So there are two telnet options that can help with this:

RFC946: TERMINAL LOCATION NUMBER is specifically for transmitting the client's IP address, but it only supports sending a 64bit integer (32bits for IP, 32bits for terminal number), so it only supports IPv4.

RFC779: SEND-LOCATION is not specifically meant for transmitting an IP address, but since it supports sending an arbitrary length ASCII string there's no reason it can't be used to send either an IPv4 or IPv6 address. For this reason it's the better of the two options.

I implemented both options in fTelnet a couple months ago, so a server that wants to know the client's real IP address can use either option to get it. Of course since it's the client sending the information it's no more trustworthy than say HTTP headers like HTTP_USER_AGENT or HTTP_REFERER.

Ideally fTelnetProxy would intercept the option request and answer instead, since it can supply the guaranteed-to-be-correct IP, but I'll leave that for someone else who is more worried about rogue clients lying about their IP.

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