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At the risk of it getting too fine-grained, would it be worth splitting DevCloud into "DevCloud: long-running VMs" - Retire; "DevCloud: automatically built ephemeral VMs" - Adopt?

There might be more concise words for those, but the concept is that we should probably be moving away from black-box VMs that we can't trivially rebuild on demand.

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Adopt: Vagrant
Adopt: Puppet
Adopt: DevCloud
Retire: Long-lived Virtual Machines
Explore: Docker
Explore: Kubernetes

(I don't think it's worth putting VirtualBox or VMWare on here. That's a client decision, and I don't see the value in radar-ing it?)

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I'd add Kubernetes / Docker to explore - might not be relevant for us (yet) but soon 🤞

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@nyctef I heavily use VMware myself. The concrete reasons I can think of is I have an existing library of VMs set up in a way that is useful for testing SQL Clone, with significant snapshot history, and that VMware can free up unused disk space from disk images, which I haven't seen VirtualBox successfully do.

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We're still using vagrant/virtualbox heavily for testing/dev environments - seems to work pretty well. I think there were some experiments Nico did around using docker for something similar, but I don't think those have gone anywhere yet (would be pretty cool to put our entire build process in a container and just run that on teamcity, though)

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Right now, vagrant should certainly be our default for our provisioning test environments, and puppet for building them.

If vagrant was Endure, what would be our Adopt option? Would it be strange to endure something without any "use this instead" guidance?

Are there any older things still in use (e.g. Endure/Retire candidates)?

Docker/Kubernetes as Explore sounds good.

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Sorry, the suggestion of endure for Vagrant was my mis-reading of that category. Agreed it should be Adopt.

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Are there any older things still in use (e.g. Endure/Retire candidates)?

Is anyone still using VMWare instead of virtualbox to run VMs? I was going to say vCloud and/or VMGetter as well but those appear to be properly dead.

devcloud is probably relevant (Adopt) in this area as well?

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