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glemaitre avatar glemaitre commented on June 17, 2024 2

This information can be stored in a additional file, for example

Yep I had in mind the following suggestion:

  • an additional file.
  • an additional webpage on the main site.
  • on the wiki page of the repository.

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glemaitre avatar glemaitre commented on June 17, 2024 1

Participants site are the hospital where the acquisition have been done.

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glemaitre avatar glemaitre commented on June 17, 2024 1

I see.

@GaelVaroquaux Do you think that it should be added in a sort of introduction in the notebook or shall we have a wiki or an aside page info for those features. I am scared to clutter the notebook by adding up information.

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glemaitre avatar glemaitre commented on June 17, 2024 1

@vfdev-5 you can let this issue opened. This is actually useful and this is not a duplicate.

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romainVala avatar romainVala commented on June 17, 2024 1

@suprsankr
those measures are volume because they are not in the cortex (only cortical area are defined between 2 surface which allow the quantification of mean thickness and area)

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alrzmshy avatar alrzmshy commented on June 17, 2024

I second that. Domain knowledge would be very helpful for this challenge as there are people that are not familiar with the description of features.

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glemaitre avatar glemaitre commented on June 17, 2024

@alirezamosh check also the website. If you have more questions we can discuss in more details.

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vfdev-5 avatar vfdev-5 commented on June 17, 2024

@glemaitre concerning "anatomy" features this site has been already sited in one of the issues. Maybe it would good to include it as a reference for those who is not famiiliar with the domain.

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vfdev-5 avatar vfdev-5 commented on June 17, 2024

I am scared to clutter the notebook by adding up information.

This information can be stored in a additional file, for example

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vfdev-5 avatar vfdev-5 commented on June 17, 2024

Another question for brain anatomy specialists, according to wiki it seems there are 4 ventricles:

  • lateral ventricles right and left (one for each hemisphere)
  • third ventricle
  • fourth ventricle

However in the data we have also anatomy_5th-Ventricle column with data like:

image

EDIT: seems FreeSurfer speaks about the 5th ventrice too :

BrainSegNotVent - same as BrainSeg without ventricles (lateral, inferior lateral, 3rd, 4th, 5th), CSF, and choroid plexus.

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glemaitre avatar glemaitre commented on June 17, 2024

@vfdev-5 You are right. The extraction was done with FreeSurfer so you will find information there regarding the anatomy.

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akatav avatar akatav commented on June 17, 2024

I am wondering what the following anatomical features mean (are they thickness or area or volume measures ?)

  • anatomy_Left-Lateral-Ventricle
  • anatomy_Left-Inf-Lat-Vent
  • anatomy_Left-Cerebellum-White-Matter
  • anatomy_Left-Cerebellum-Cortex
  • anatomy_Left-Thalamus-Proper
  • anatomy_Left-Caudate
  • anatomy_Left-Putamen
  • anatomy_Left-Pallidum
  • anatomy_3rd-Ventricle
  • anatomy_4th-Ventricle
  • anatomy_Brain-Stem
  • anatomy_Left-Hippocampus
  • anatomy_Left-Amygdala
  • anatomy_CSF
  • anatomy_Left-Lateral-Ventricle
  • anatomy_Left-Inf-Lat-Vent
  • anatomy_Left-Cerebellum-White-Matter
  • anatomy_Left-Cerebellum-Cortex
  • anatomy_Left-Thalamus-Proper
  • anatomy_Left-Caudate
  • anatomy_Left-Putamen
  • anatomy_Left-Pallidum
  • anatomy_3rd-Ventricle
  • anatomy_4th-Ventricle
  • anatomy_Brain-Stem
  • anatomy_Left-Hippocampus
  • anatomy_Left-Amygdala
  • anatomy_CSF
  • anatomy_Left-VentralDC
  • anatomy_Left-vessel
  • anatomy_Left-choroid-plexus
  • anatomy_Right-Lateral-Ventricle
  • anatomy_Right-Inf-Lat-Vent
  • anatomy_Right-Cerebellum-White-Matter
  • anatomy_Right-Cerebellum-Cortex
  • anatomy_Right-Thalamus-Proper
  • anatomy_Right-Caudate
  • anatomy_Right-Putamen
  • anatomy_Right-Pallidum
  • anatomy_Right-Hippocampus
  • anatomy_Right-Amygdala
  • anatomy_Right-VentralDC
  • anatomy_Right-vessel
  • anatomy_Right-choroid-plexus
  • anatomy_5th-Ventricle
  • anatomy_WM-hypointensities
  • anatomy_Left-WM-hypointensities
  • anatomy_Right-WM-hypointensities
  • anatomy_non-WM-hypointensities
  • anatomy_Left-non-WM-hypointensities
  • anatomy_Right-non-WM-hypointensities
  • anatomy_Optic-Chiasm
  • anatomy_CC_Posterior
  • anatomy_CC_Mid_Posterior
  • anatomy_CC_Central
  • anatomy_CC_Mid_Anterior
  • anatomy_CC_Anterior

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vfdev-5 avatar vfdev-5 commented on June 17, 2024

For more info on fsMRI, connectivity I found the article "Learning and comparing functional connectomes across subjects" and "Nilearn docs" somehow helpful.

HTH

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akatav avatar akatav commented on June 17, 2024

@romainVala thank you! i did not quite understand the second part of the answer. The above measures are also volume measures (such as anatomy_Optic-Chiasm..) except that they are not part of the cortex. So these regions cannot conveniently be measured for a thickness and area measure.
However for a non brain scientist, it suffices to know that the above measures are just volume measures. correct ? :)

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romainVala avatar romainVala commented on June 17, 2024

yes

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