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eileencodes avatar eileencodes commented on May 25, 2024

Hi @praveen-db2 the PR that removed the adapter explained that it was removed because the adapter was unmaintained at the time. However, there's nothing about that change that doesn't allow the ibm_db adapter to be used. There are many database adapters not baked directly into Rails. Without knowing what problems you're facing, we can't advise how to fix the issue, but it is likely the ibm_db adapter is missing something important or your customers are using Rails versions that your adapter doesn't support.

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praveen-db2 avatar praveen-db2 commented on May 25, 2024

Hi @eileencodes thanks for your immediate reply.
Please look at this ticket ibmdb/ruby-ibmdb#164, it will help you understand problem.

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dhh avatar dhh commented on May 25, 2024

You can just do "rails new my-app" then manually switch to your DB2 adapter afterwards. Or you can use a Rails template to do this. But out of the box, Rails is committed to only maintaining three default options: sqlite, PostgreSQL, mysql. Every other database can continue to integrate using the adapter setup as always 👍

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praveen-db2 avatar praveen-db2 commented on May 25, 2024

@dhh you said "Or you can use a Rails template to do this." Can I know how it can be done. Appreciate your reply.

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dhh avatar dhh commented on May 25, 2024

https://guides.rubyonrails.org/rails_application_templates.html

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scotdb avatar scotdb commented on May 25, 2024

The comment that only two databases are supported isn't strictly true. The main problem that we as Db2 users face is the lack of support for Db2 in the following two places in the railties gem -

railties-7.1.2/lib/rails/generators/rails/app/templates/config/databases
railties-7.1.2/lib/rails/generators/database.rb

If you look at those you'll find the list is much longer than the three mentioned -

 JDBC_DATABASES = %w( jdbcmysql jdbcsqlite3 jdbcpostgresql jdbc )
  DATABASES = %w( mysql trilogy postgresql sqlite3 oracle sqlserver ) + JDBC_DATABASES

Similar list from the set of template YAML files.

It is all very well to say "you can just add those manually", as I had to do in the past.

But to remove the ibm_db driver as "unsupported", leaving behind a bunch of other proprietary drivers, is hardly equitable. The Rails driver from IBM is being supported actively by IBM (Praveeen above being one of the developers).

So what I, as a Db2 user, would like to see is the Db2 links put back into these two locations as they once were.

Phil Nelson

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skipkayhil avatar skipkayhil commented on May 25, 2024

But to remove the ibm_db driver as "unsupported", leaving behind a bunch of other proprietary drivers, is hardly equitable. The Rails driver from IBM is being supported actively by IBM

It looks like there has been a lot of development in the past year, but at the time the PR was merged (2020) the most recent release of ibm_db was 4.0.0 and it did not support Rails 5.2 which was released in 2018.

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dhh avatar dhh commented on May 25, 2024

Yeah, I do actually think we should eject the rest of the proprietary DBs on that list as well. Along with the JDBC versions. Rails will maintain for the 3 open source DBs we support, and then everything else can bring its own adapter by hand or rails application template.

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zzak avatar zzak commented on May 25, 2024

For reference, there is an adapter for oracle which is pretty well maintained.

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