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samaaron avatar samaaron commented on May 23, 2024

Hey @bleadof,

First up, you should pull the latest Emacs LIve - I no longer bind M-w to anything, so that should fix the issue.

Secondly, I'd place your pack outside of the ~/.emacs.d directory - that will make it easier for you to git pull new changes without having any conflicts. You can easily point to your pack by describing it in your ~/.emacs-live.el file. It also means you don't have to maintain your own fork of Emacs Live.

Finally, I'm not sure why you couldn't override M-w. Do the other two bindings you specify (C-w and C-y) work?

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samaaron avatar samaaron commented on May 23, 2024

Any luck fixing this?

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bleadof avatar bleadof commented on May 23, 2024

On 16.11.2012, at 0.27, Sam Aaron [email protected] wrote:

Any luck fixing this?

I'll look into this tomorrow. I can of course open a new one too, if you're anxious to close this.

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samaaron avatar samaaron commented on May 23, 2024

Did you manage to find the time to look into this?

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bleadof avatar bleadof commented on May 23, 2024

My project ends this week, so next week I'll have plenty of time :-)

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KrisHedges avatar KrisHedges commented on May 23, 2024

Hey all, So I'm trying emacs-live out and managed to get my user-config loaded, but there are still some little things that aren't behaving as expected. C-w kill-region isn't working for me and C-h help isn't working either. Are these overwritten somewhere? And if they are, why? These are standard bindings that really shouldn't be effected. Where might these bindings be?
Not trying to harsh. Just looking for some direction.

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samaaron avatar samaaron commented on May 23, 2024

In Emacs Live C-w is bound to killing a word backwards and C-h is bound to deleting backwards.

I'm not prepared to change either of these to the default Emacs bindings. I personally find both of these bindings much nicer than the original - especially C-h which has always been backwards delete on ever OS I've loved.

Of course, this doesn't mean that you need to use them - you're free to rebind these to whatever you want (including the originals) in your own user pack, or you could also choose to not load the bindings pack and therefore not have any of the bindings Emacs Live suggests.

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KrisHedges avatar KrisHedges commented on May 23, 2024

Thanks for answering my question. After posting I found where these bindings were and thus found what they were rebound to. It was really throwing me for a loop at first, but I think I'm willing to try and relearn these new bindings. I'm loving it otherwise. It's always the little things.

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samaaron avatar samaaron commented on May 23, 2024

My apologies for not making this more clearer. I'm currently in the process of writing the Emacs LIve documentation, so things aren't as documented as I'd like at this stage.

Still, please don't think that just because Emacs Live suggests you do something that it's something to do. It's just that - a suggestion. Emacs becomes far more powerful when you let it empower you and you decide what to do with that power. Emacs LIve just tries to be an interesting starting point for some people and makes no pretensions to leading any sort of way :-)

Thanks for using it and thanks for being so open minded.

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KrisHedges avatar KrisHedges commented on May 23, 2024

No problem. I love the project. I've been using Emacs for several years now but just today decided to upgrade to 24 and thought I'd give this a shot after hearing about it at the conj. I'm a total clojure noob but loving the community and the things that folks are making. I'm always up for trying something new. To be honest I've always tried M-h instead of C-h for the help/docs because that's always seemed like a more logical place, but C-w is all muscle memory so it may take a bit more getting used to. I'd love to be able to use this for new emacs setups so the closer to using the vanilla bindings that come with, the better. I just started all this upgrade stuff today and it's only taken me a few hours to get up and running with it, which in Emacs is quite the accomplishment, in the past it's been several days before my config was where i wanted it. Keep on rocking it. Perhaps a cheat-sheet that would show any differences from the standard keybindings might help? Or even just a big list of the bindings that are present?

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samaaron avatar samaaron commented on May 23, 2024

Can I close this?

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KrisHedges avatar KrisHedges commented on May 23, 2024

I'd say yes.

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samaaron avatar samaaron commented on May 23, 2024

OK. Please feel free to re-open if this is still giving you issues.

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