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nojb avatar nojb commented on June 14, 2024 1

Wild guess: the interface of Genlex (in the standard library) refers to Stream. Could it be that that reference means two different things depending on whether stream.cmi has already been built (in the current directory, so taking precedence over the standard library version) or not? Note that there is no ocamldep-visible dependency between Genlex and Stream, so these would be built in parallel...

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bmwiedemann avatar bmwiedemann commented on June 14, 2024

diff looks thus:

--- old /usr/lib64/ocaml/camlp-streams/genlex.cmti (hex)
+++ new /usr/lib64/ocaml/camlp-streams/genlex.cmti (hex)
@@ -1,33 +1,33 @@
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 00000390  9b 15 40 84 95 a6 be 00  00 00 04 00 00 00 02 00  |..@.............|
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-000003c0  00 02 f0 00 00 0b c3 00  00 0b 52 08 00 00 3c 00  |..........R...<.|
+000003b0  39 39 39 54 30 33 31 84  95 a6 be 00 00 0e ec 00  |999T031.........|
+000003c0  00 02 ed 00 00 0b bb 00  00 0b 4b 08 00 00 3c 00  |..........K...<.|
 000003d0  26 47 65 6e 6c 65 78 92  b0 a0 b0 9b c0 d0 94 d0  |&Genlex.........|
 000003e0  91 b0 a0 b0 9c c0 d0 c4  d0 a0 a1 90 92 26 53 74  |.............&St|
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-00000550  40 40 40 04 24 40 40 40  92 04 03 a3 2a 66 6c 6f  |@@@.$@@@....*flo|
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+00000430  01 04 01 04 01 40 a7 b1  b2 b2 b2 b2 b2 b2 b2 b2  |.....@..........|
+00000440  b2 b2 b2 b2 b1 b1 b1 b1  b1 b1 b1 b1 b1 b1 b1 b1  |................|
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+00000460  38 00 a0 c0 90 40 02 05  f5 e1 00 40 4d 40 41 40  |8....@.....@M@A@|
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stedolan avatar stedolan commented on June 14, 2024

Which versions of OCaml and Dune are you using, and can you provide the two different cmti files?

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bmwiedemann avatar bmwiedemann commented on June 14, 2024

We have
ocaml-4.14.1
ocaml-dune-3.9.1

I now attached the cmti files: genlex.cmti.zip

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bmwiedemann avatar bmwiedemann commented on June 14, 2024

Ping. Do you have any updates?

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xavierleroy avatar xavierleroy commented on June 14, 2024

I have the impression this is a Dune issue, and submitted it: ocaml/dune#9152 .

This is such a trivial project (2 small OCaml files...) that we could force a sequential build. But then we could just as well get rid of Dune and have a simple shell script to build everything.

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nojb avatar nojb commented on June 14, 2024

For what is worth, I tried to reproduce, but was not successful (even increasing the number of iterations to 400).

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bmwiedemann avatar bmwiedemann commented on June 14, 2024

Strange. For some reason I cannot reproduce it anymore with the original reproducer, but with

for i in $(seq 100); do rm -rf _build ; "dune" "build" "--verbose" "--for-release-of-packages=camlp-streams" "-j4" "@install" >/dev/null 2>&1 ; md5sum _build/default/.camlp_streams.objs/byte/stream.cmti ; done |sort|uniq -c

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nojb avatar nojb commented on June 14, 2024

I was able to reproduce with the Makefile below (to be put in an empty directory). I used the following command to test, with a loaded machine (running a separate large parallel build at the same time). I could then get failures consistently:

$ for i in $(seq 500); do make clean ; make -j4 >/dev/null ; md5sum stream.cmti ; done |sort|uniq -c
    492 d560ae703a76c49614c1308d160d7303  stream.cmti
      8 e0fb1e4741b43ff8473a7b8ec067d58a  stream.cmti

Makefile:

CAMLC = ocamlc.opt
COMPFLAGS = -w -40 -w -3 -g -bin-annot -no-alias-deps

camlp_streams.cma: stream.cmo genlex.cmo
        $(CAMLC) -a -o $@ stream.cmo genlex.cmo

stream.ml:
        echo 'include Stream' > $@

stream.mli:
        echo 'include module type of struct include Stream end' > $@

genlex.ml:
        echo 'include Genlex' > $@

genlex.mli:
        echo 'include module type of struct include Genlex end' > $@

genlex.cmi: genlex.mli
        $(CAMLC) $(COMPFLAGS) -c genlex.mli

stream.cmi: stream.mli
        $(CAMLC) $(COMPFLAGS) -c stream.mli

genlex.cmo: genlex.cmi genlex.ml
        $(CAMLC) $(COMPFLAGS) -c genlex.ml

stream.cmo: stream.cmi stream.ml
        $(CAMLC) $(COMPFLAGS) -c stream.ml

.PHONY: clean
clean:
        @rm -rf *.cm*

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bmwiedemann avatar bmwiedemann commented on June 14, 2024

https://rb.zq1.de/other/ocaml/ocaml-camlp-streams-provenance.dot.svg has the auto-generated view on how stream.cmti is created twice

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ejgallego avatar ejgallego commented on June 14, 2024

@bmwiedemann I'm afraid I cannot understand that graph, how come ocamlc stream.mli is called twice?

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bmwiedemann avatar bmwiedemann commented on June 14, 2024

how come ocamlc stream.mli is called twice?

To me it looks as if we called dune build twice from the %build section in the .spec file, but I cannot find where that would be coming from.

Another run produced https://rb.zq1.de/other/ocaml/ocaml-camlp-streams-provenance1b.dot.svg without the double-write.

I did notice that stream.cmti is not an explicit output but a side-output of the creation of steam.cmi . Is that file really used at runtime?

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ejgallego avatar ejgallego commented on June 14, 2024

@bmwiedemann indeed if you called dune build twice, since a while, dune won't allow this to happen in parallel. That graph seems strange to me.

Second graph looks normal (one call for build one for install)

IMHO @nojb theory seems like a prime candidate for the problem.

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xavierleroy avatar xavierleroy commented on June 14, 2024

I did notice that stream.cmti is not an explicit output but a side-output of the creation of steam.cmi . Is that file really used at runtime?

It's a compact, compiled form of the textual interface stream.cmi, used by editors and editor services like Merlin. It doesn't participate in compilation and linking.

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xavierleroy avatar xavierleroy commented on June 14, 2024

Wild guess: the interface of Genlex (in the standard library) refers to Stream. Could it be that that reference means two different things depending on whether stream.cmi has already been built (in the current directory, so taking precedence over the standard library version) or not?

Quite possibly! This should eventually lead to checksum errors ("...make inconsistent assumptions on...") but these appear only at link-time in OCaml 4.

Note that there is no ocamldep-visible dependency between Genlex and Stream, so these would be built in parallel...

Sounds dangerous! What happens if you add that dependency to your Makefile?

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nojb avatar nojb commented on June 14, 2024

Note that there is no ocamldep-visible dependency between Genlex and Stream, so these would be built in parallel...

Sounds dangerous! What happens if you add that dependency to your Makefile?

The irreproducibility seems to go away.

Here is a "synthethic" example of what (I think) is going on, where genlex.cmti is different depending on whether stream.cmi has been built in the current directory or not:

$ echo 'include module type of struct include Stream end' > stream.mli
$ echo 'include module type of struct include Genlex end' > genlex.mli
$ ocamlc -w -3 -bin-annot -c genlex.mli
$ md5sum genlex.cmti
41a34aaea74766ef28350968a959f894  genlex.cmti
$ ocamlc -w -3 -bin-annot -c stream.mli
$ ocamlc -w -3 -bin-annot -c genlex.mli
$ md5sum genlex.cmti
85cfabb6f480fbb01458713539d4bb4e  genlex.cmti

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bmwiedemann avatar bmwiedemann commented on June 14, 2024

That would also explain why there are only ever 2 different results (1 bit of randomness).

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stedolan avatar stedolan commented on June 14, 2024

I dug into @bmwiedemann's example genlex.cmti files a bit. They differ in the environment attached to a Tmod_constraint node in the typedtree: one has environment E and the other has Env_persistent (E, Ident.create_persistent "Stream").

Env_persistent arises only from the following logic in env.ml:

    let material =
      (* This addition only observably changes the environment if it shadows a
         non-persistent module already in the environment.
         (See PR#9345) *)
      match
        IdTbl.find_name wrap_module ~mark:false (Ident.name id) env.modules
      with
      | exception Not_found | _, Mod_persistent -> false
      | _ -> true
    in
    let summary =
      if material then Env_persistent (env.summary, id)
      else env.summary
    in

It looks like the value of material is changing depending on whether stream.cmi has been built. I am surprised by this: I think the presence or absence of stream.cmi should affect whether find_name reports Not_found or finds a Mod_persistent module, but both of these yield material = false. To get material = true and hence an Env_persistent node, we'd need to have a Stream module in the environment which is not Mod_persistent, but I don't know where this might come from.

Perhaps this is something to do with the shadowing of Stream?

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nojb avatar nojb commented on June 14, 2024

but I don't know where this might come from.

Could it be the one coming from the standard library, Stdlib.Stream?

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stedolan avatar stedolan commented on June 14, 2024

Hmm, maybe material=true without Mod_persistent in this case because the Stream module in the environment is not the Stream module from stream.mli, but the Stream module alias from stdlib.mli (which points to the same thing, but maybe does not have the Mod_persistent flag set).

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