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mpsq avatar mpsq commented on June 9, 2024 6

Thank you for your comment, this is very valuable feedback. Please check the answer I posted on #27.

To elaborate on the matter, I registered areweewmhyet.com and arewenetwmyet.com (EWMH being equivalent to NetWM, according to Wikipedia, the latter seems easier to remember/use) and I am planning on writing a website that could be used as a formal reference to what Wayland supports and what it does not. This would most likely be done according to your advice.
I would like to keep arewewaylandyet.com as "provocative" Wayland PR and add a link to the formal one. I think there is value in both. Let me know what you think.

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gioele avatar gioele commented on June 9, 2024

To elaborate on the matter, I registered areweewmhyet.com and arewenetwmyet.com

Pleasantly unexpected. :)

I agree that arewewaylandyet.com is a provocative (in a good way) name and it should be the go-to website.

If you want to create something more structured, you can take inspiration from https://mesamatrix.net/. It provides an simple yet precise overview of which Mesa drivers have reached which level of OpenGL support and is now extending into Vulkan.

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mpsq avatar mpsq commented on June 9, 2024

Mesamatrix is really nice, thanks for the link, I will definitely use it as inspiration!

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hexchain avatar hexchain commented on June 9, 2024

Here is another related reference: https://caniuse.com

It would be really cool to have a site that collects all known Wayland protocols (standard and vendor extensions) and lists if any compositor supports a protocol. Currently, the only way to check for this is to dig issue trackers or sometimes source code.

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akvadrako avatar akvadrako commented on June 9, 2024

Here is another related reference: https://caniuse.com

It would be really cool to have a site that collects all known Wayland protocols (standard and vendor extensions) and lists if any compositor supports a protocol. Currently, the only way to check for this is to dig issue trackers or sometimes source code.

I'm thinking to do something like this. A list of wayland protocols and what supports them. I guess it would be better to make this a separate project and not part of this repo?

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mpsq avatar mpsq commented on June 9, 2024

I did not give up on this just yet, finding the right approach is the tricky bit, mapping Xorg features to what Wayland can do does not always make sense. Doing this via listing Wayland protocols seem to be a good idea to me. I may have a try at it and see what I can get, I would happily share this and host it in this repo ;)

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wiki-me avatar wiki-me commented on June 9, 2024

Thank you for your comment, this is very valuable feedback. Please check the answer I posted on #27.

To elaborate on the matter, I registered areweewmhyet.com and arewenetwmyet.com (EWMH being equivalent to NetWM, according to Wikipedia, the latter seems easier to remember/use) and I am planning on writing a website that could be used as a formal reference to what Wayland supports and what it does not. This would most likely be done according to your advice.
I would like to keep arewewaylandyet.com as "provocative" Wayland PR and add a link to the formal one. I think there is value in both. Let me know what you think.

I think if you can afford it (You might even be able to crowd fund it on Rysolv or some other website) I always thought "waylandexplained" would be a good domain name for that sort of thing (that could also include the section about missconception or arguments agains wayland and their counter arguments).

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asdf8dfafjk avatar asdf8dfafjk commented on June 9, 2024

arewenetwmyet.com doesn't seem up? Thank you for this btw, I wish the whole NET::WM thing were easily approachable when I started dabbling with X11 windows

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