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mjuric avatar mjuric commented on August 23, 2024

Hi Dominique,
I agree, I largely punted on the database by referring to the design docs; in retrospect, that's unfair.

@jbecla , could you add a paragraph on the database, along the lines that Dominique is proposing? The challenge: I'd need it by ~tomorrow night (need to submit by 5_am_ on Friday).

I also recall you had a Supercomputing paper on qserv -- what's the reference for it?

from adass-2015-paper.

timj avatar timj commented on August 23, 2024

We already cite the SC paper. I added that a while back.

from adass-2015-paper.

mjuric avatar mjuric commented on August 23, 2024

Ah, missed that, thanks!

from adass-2015-paper.

jbecla avatar jbecla commented on August 23, 2024

I'll look into that tomorrow

from adass-2015-paper.

mjuric avatar mjuric commented on August 23, 2024

@jbecla Actually, having re-read the whole paper, I think the best thing to to would be to just add a note that Qserv has been tested in data challenges, just like the rest of the stack. The reason for that is that we don't actually dwell much on design details or performance promises for other components either.

How does this look: https://github.com/mjuric/adass-2015-paper/blob/qserv/O3-1.pdf . In the last paragraph on page 7, I added:

Advanced prototypes of the distributed, shared-nothing, database being written for LSST – Qserv – have been tested on a 150-node cluster using 55 billion rows and 30 terabytes of simulated data (Wang et al. 2011).

I took these from Daniel's paper -- what would be the updated numbers?

from adass-2015-paper.

jbecla avatar jbecla commented on August 23, 2024

Great, I got distracted earlier and so I am glad to hear I don't need to write it :). The number you are quoting are capturing well the scale we tested with. Independently this summer we tested with relatively comparable data set (32TB, 5B objects, 35B sources, 172B forcedSources), the most prominent thing this time around was that we got Qserv to run reliably for days under heavy load (100+ concurrent queries consisting of a mix of easy and hard ones) and with 100x lower latency than the 2011 tests.

from adass-2015-paper.

mjuric avatar mjuric commented on August 23, 2024

Thanks, Jacek -- I also added a link to S15 tests page on confluence.

from adass-2015-paper.

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