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mikolalysenko avatar mikolalysenko commented on August 28, 2024

It is quite possibly a bug. I found an error in robust-scale the other day which I am currently working on correcting. Once I get this fixed up, my next highest priority is to take a closer look at robust-orientation to make sure that it is working as intended.

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mikolalysenko avatar mikolalysenko commented on August 28, 2024

I just pushed a change set to two-product that fixed a long standing bug, and the latest version ought to work.

Looking at the mathematica examples, I think your expressions for the determinants are wrong. You are evaluating in Wolfram alpha the determinant:

| a0  b0  c0 |
| a1  b1  c1 |
| a2  b2  c2 |

But what you are computing in robust-orientation is the determinant:

| a0  b0  c0  0 |
| a1  b1  c1  0 |
| a2  b2  c2  0 |
| 1   1   1   1 |

For more information on this predicate, here is a link:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~quake/robust.html

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jasondavies avatar jasondavies commented on August 28, 2024

Thanks for looking into this!

Actually, the two determinant expressions you give above are equivalent. But I did make a mistake in my test case: the transposition wasn’t actually needed, since the determinant should be:

| a0 a1 a2 |
| b0 b1 b2 |
| c0 c1 c2 |

This is orient3d from Shewchuk’s paper. For convenience, I’m taking d = [0, 0, 0]. I’ve corrected the code in the bug description so it doesn’t transpose anything.

Your library now gives a positive sign for both test cases, which is encouraging, but unfortunately this doesn’t seem to match Mathematica, which gives a negative sign. For random test cases with no roundoff, your library seems to match Mathematica, so I’m wondering if there’s still a bug somewhere in the robustness code?

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jasondavies avatar jasondavies commented on August 28, 2024

Actually, I’m getting a positive sign when using an alternative quadruple-precision library, so maybe I shouldn’t put so much faith in Mathematica. I’ll check into it some more and get back to you.

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jasondavies avatar jasondavies commented on August 28, 2024

Yeah, it seems Mathematica doesn’t use any additional precision by default as I had naïvely assumed. I checked with Maxima with fpprec=100 and it is positive, so all looks good. Thanks!

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mikolalysenko avatar mikolalysenko commented on August 28, 2024

Another possible explanation for this inconsistency could be how mathematica interprets decimal encodings of 64 bit IEEE 754 numbers. If it unpacks them internally into a higher precision format, then there could be issues. Eg. 0.3f != 0.3 in C.

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