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LSartore avatar LSartore commented on June 9, 2024

Hi,
Could you please share the 'Definitions' section of your model file ? This will probably help in identifying the issue.

Regarding your question, any kind of transposition is in principle possible since the indices appear explicitly in the definition of the operators. For objects that can be seen as rank-1 tensors (e.g. the Higgs field), H and H^T are strictly equivalent in the explicit index notation.
To implement the operator that you mentioned above (or any other one), the recipe is to first convert the matrix-form expression in an index notation:

H^T \epsilon \Delta^\dagger H -> H[i] Eps[i,j] DeltaDag[j,k] H[k] ,

assuming that DeltaDag has been defined earlier in the model file.

I hope this will help. Let me know if this does not work as expected, or if you have any other question.

Cheers,
Lohan

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Yong-Du avatar Yong-Du commented on June 9, 2024

Hi Lohan,

My Definitions section is attached below, and let me mention that it is the only part I change in the original SM.model file. I hope this can help identify the issues.

Regarding the transposition, what you suggested was exactly what I thought and had tried before raising this issue, but unfortunately it failed, complaining that } is expected instead of [ from the H[i] part. I think this is probably somehow related to the parsing issue. So I will try that again when we fix the parsing error.

Thanks and best,
Yong


Definitions: {
    tFund : t(SU2, 2),
    Delta[i,j] : tFund[a,i,j] delta[a],
    DeltaDag[i,j] : tFund[a,i,j] deltabar[a],
    Tr2 : DeltaDag[i,j] Delta[j,i],
    Tr4 : DeltaDag[i,j] Delta[j,k] DeltaDag[k,l] Delta[l,i],
    Htilde[i] : Eps[i,j]*Hbar[j]
},

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LSartore avatar LSartore commented on June 9, 2024

Hi,
Thanks for your reply.

First, let me acknowledge that PyR@TE's parser could very much be improved in the way error are raised. From your last message, it seems that you have simply forgotten to define the new scalar triplet 'delta', within the ComplexScalars section. For instance:

ComplexScalars: {
H: {RealFields: [Pi, Sigma], Norm: 1/sqrt(2), Qnb : {U1: 1/2, SU2L: 2, SU3c: 1}},
delta : {RealFields: [detlaR, deltaI], Norm: 1/sqrt(2), Qnb: {U1: 1, SU2L : 3, SU3c: 1}}
}

In principle this should solve all the issues. In particular, I suspect that the other errors that you may get are related to the fact that Delta is ill-defined.

Hope this helps.
Lohan

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Yong-Du avatar Yong-Du commented on June 9, 2024

Hi Lohan,

Thank you for the prompt reply. It worked indeed after defining the delta filed as you suggested -- I previously misunderstood that once one had specified the fundamental gauge group, the scalar fields in its adjoint representation would be identified automatically.

In the meantime, the issue associated with the transpose operation I mentioned earlier now also goes away.

Thanks again and best,
Yong

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