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stevengj avatar stevengj commented on May 18, 2024 2

That explicitly deals with only project-specific configuration. I disagree with Stefan that package-specific configuration is unneeded. If the user installs PyCall, how do they specify the Python version in a way that will be remembered across updates? Asking them to create a project just to do this seems like a nonstarter.

It seems like there needs to be way to store package options persistently in a given environment, perhaps in a way that is inherited by projects created within that environment.

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tkf avatar tkf commented on May 18, 2024 1

Given that JuliaLang/julia#37595 is merged and we (will) have https://github.com/JuliaPackaging/Preferences.jl, I think we can close it now?

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stevengj avatar stevengj commented on May 18, 2024

The lack of a good way to do this is starting to be a serious problem.

Right now, e.g. PyCall and Conda save preferences (like which python version to use) in the deps directory — in 0.6, this allowed it to "remember" your preferences the next time it was updated. In the new package design, this no longer works because packages are not updated in-place.

I could install the preferences into ~/.julia/config, but then you run into global namespace issues and an inability to have multiple configurations living side by side.

@StefanKarpinski and @KristofferC, do you have any ideas about where persistent preferences should be stored?

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ChrisRackauckas avatar ChrisRackauckas commented on May 18, 2024

@StefanKarpinski has an idea written out here: JuliaLang/Pkg.jl#458 (comment)

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StefanKarpinski avatar StefanKarpinski commented on May 18, 2024

I never said that package-specific configuration was not needed. I have said that package configuration must be a global property controlled by an application or global environment, not by other packages since packages are reusable.

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simonbyrne avatar simonbyrne commented on May 18, 2024

well, you could allow it in packages, but let the projects have primacy.

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StefanKarpinski avatar StefanKarpinski commented on May 18, 2024

That means that packages will get tested one way but run a different way. Seems like a bad idea.

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simonbyrne avatar simonbyrne commented on May 18, 2024

I was just envisioning the package-provided one to be the "default" (though of course, that logic could be handled in the Pkg.build as well).

We should provide a way to override these at the command line or via environment variables, so that it is easy to set up a test matrix.

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oxinabox avatar oxinabox commented on May 18, 2024

So I am clear,
would it be envisioned that this be used for something like my configuration needs for DataDeps?
http://white.ucc.asn.au/DataDeps.jl/latest/z10-for-end-users.html#Configuration-1

That is 5 environment variables, and it is about to get a 6th to control how often download progress is displayed.

These things are configurable at run time.


I know C# and Java include built in configuration libraries.
The C# one is extensive.
Where each project does ship with a app.config file or similar,
that can be trivially read using something like Config["KEY"].
(And in C# you can do a ton of stuff to automatically map it to object properties etc.)

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