Rework the section regarding $id and $ref about understanding-json-schema HOT 4 CLOSED

I think #729 is a positive change (for the reasons you mentioned, so you've got my vote), but yeah doesn't help the key issue which is having to do two passes (or, having to do one, ahead of time pass to collect them, followed by a lazy lookup once you've collected those kinds of refs).

The only thing I think that'd help that is having a designated section for location-independent refs so that you don't need 2 passes and can just know to always look there, but I think I remember you saying there are reasons that the way things are now is needed or convenient for authors, so yeah definitely not saying I have all the answers on that one.

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It definitely supports id+ref generally, but what that seems likely to be trying to say at the minute is the "location independent" references which aare indeed not supported yet (and are a pain to implement. But some day I guess it will have to happen).

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@Julian would json-schema-org/json-schema-spec#729 make this any easier or harder?

IIRC the problem was doing the pre-scan to find all of the "$id": "#foo" anchors, so changing that to "$anchor": "foo" would not really make that easier.

Although it would arguably make it less confusing: instead of being this weird well... some $ids work and some don't situation, it would just be $anchor is not supported. So that would seem to be a slight argument in favor of #729? (Recall that I brought up putting it in draft-08 after all a couple of weeks ago).

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We now have more clarity in the spec on why you would want to use $id outside of a document root, and have also split out the use case in this section of Understanding JSON Schema into the $anchor keyword, which should make all of this less confusing.

The section referenced by this bug should now talk about $anchor, and the rest of $id's behavior should show up somewhere else (I don't know if it already does in the current book or if we'll need to add that).

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