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RamonGilabert avatar RamonGilabert commented on May 20, 2024

Voted πŸ‘Ž.

The reason is basically the fact that for a small app, I find it more convenient to just do it in a quick archiving. Also the Fabric app helps when distributing, so no pain there. It can save me 3 minutes when it's archiving? Sure, but I like to take those 3 minutes to relax after I've done the job.

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vadymmarkov avatar vadymmarkov commented on May 20, 2024

Only once it worked from the first time for me, in my latest project, and I was kind of surprised πŸ˜„ But I prefer to ship versions to Fabric from the command line, therefore like this approach. When it comes to AppStore release I prefer to do it from Xcode, it feels safer and I have more control in a way.

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zenangst avatar zenangst commented on May 20, 2024

I think that might be a good middle ground, I use fabric in my current project for shipping new staging versions. But I will probably use Xcode when pushing it to iTunes Connect with the same argument that @vadymmarkov has.

I also agree with @RamonGilabert's comment, you get a sense of accomplishment just by doing the task. When you are done, you are done, in contrast to fastlane that is very anti-climatic. Even if you don't have to do all the steps, you still have to monitor the thing so that it actually does succeed, because if it did fail silently, then you wasted a lot of time.

But as I stated in the initial comment, shipping our internal product would be an awful task to deal with if we didn't have fastlane to help us out with all the builds.

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RamonGilabert avatar RamonGilabert commented on May 20, 2024

I agree, it would be a pain to distribute if we didn't have fastlane, but I also want to note that this app is an extreme case scenario where 5 or 6 projects eat from the same plate and get distributed at the same time, etc.

"Normally" I don't think that happens? Meaning projects that take a couple of minutes to distribute. You get a notification from fabric, you tap, done. Isn't it?

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zenangst avatar zenangst commented on May 20, 2024

Yeah, it is a super edge-case! I think we can all agree on that. But I still like it for pooping out versions to staging. Unless they silently fail, then I get sad.

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RamonGilabert avatar RamonGilabert commented on May 20, 2024

That's sorta why I am trying to push back on fastlane. Something that can work only once in a whole project or fail silently, I don't think it's a good fit for this, seeing the time that saves you. (3 minutes per release?).

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RamonGilabert avatar RamonGilabert commented on May 20, 2024

After two days working in the Swift Migration and today fixing the networking, Mixpanel, transitions, etc. I am releasing to Fabric. Now, I can take a break of the buggy and crash-(y) Xcode and relax for a while, read some issues, go to check Open Source PRsts, etc.

I could do the same with Fastlane, true, but I can get it as an excuse. In the meantime, I can check the bar, see if it's archiving or not.

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onmyway133 avatar onmyway133 commented on May 20, 2024

I like fastlane for its organizing tasks (bump version, add new record, update release notes) and generating provisioning profiles

When it builds fail, it's mostly due to our fault, like pod not in sync, missing files in target, ...

The most error I get is it can't upload builds to iTunes or Fabric, in this case I have to press the Distribute button on Fabric mac app again. For appstore, I have to run the script again 😒

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zenangst avatar zenangst commented on May 20, 2024

If the silent failure of fastlane is an issue, that can be fixed by catching it an doing something with that error other than just printing it in the terminal. Like sending a Slack message, email or iMessage.

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RamonGilabert avatar RamonGilabert commented on May 20, 2024

Then I don't understand what gives you a part of being able to use Xcode in the meantime, if you are telling me that you have to press Distribute.

Only thing I have to do for Fabric is press Archive, wait until I get the notification, press Distribute.

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onmyway133 avatar onmyway133 commented on May 20, 2024

@RamonGilabert The crashlytics action in fastlane seems to not reliable asDistribute in Fabric mac app. The same goes for deliver vs Xcode

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RamonGilabert avatar RamonGilabert commented on May 20, 2024

Yeah, that's why I am raging against Fastlane. 😊

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zenangst avatar zenangst commented on May 20, 2024

What fastlane does handle for you that I think is really nice is sigh, where it reaches out to the portal and fetches the provisioning profiles for you when needed. This is a real timesaver when joining a project that you haven't had setup on your machine before.

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zenangst avatar zenangst commented on May 20, 2024

Seems like majority vote says fastlane is a go so I'll close this issue.

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