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ihaveamac avatar ihaveamac commented on May 26, 2024 1

"owner might want to restore it to pre-hacked state before reselling" is what we have an uninstall guide for. If they have a NAND backup from the time they did Finalizing Setup, that is as close to stock as possible.

We probably won't have it be an "optional" part because the more options people have to decide on, the more complicated it gets. So we only support one guide path where possible, and multiple only when it's necessary.

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danny8376 avatar danny8376 commented on May 26, 2024

well, it's literally impossible to do it before modded
also, there's literally no point of doing it before modded

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lilyuwuu avatar lilyuwuu commented on May 26, 2024

it could be possible (have a payload that backs up nand take the place of safeb9sinstaller) but it would generally be impractical

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mariomadproductions avatar mariomadproductions commented on May 26, 2024

it could be possible (have a payload that backs up nand take the place of safeb9sinstaller) but it would generally be impractical

Could the payload just be GodMode9? That could be used to backup the NAND then run safeb9sinstaller, right? That seems reasonably practical, unless I'm misunderstanding.

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ihaveamac avatar ihaveamac commented on May 26, 2024

It's easier and better to get boot9strap installed first and then make a backup. No real need to do it before.

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lilyuwuu avatar lilyuwuu commented on May 26, 2024

it's impractical in that it's asking users to do a lot (run a backup routine that will take a while and may not even be successful or may not complete due to insufficient space).

For practical purposes a 'clean backup' is any console where no major modifications (i.e. modified uniques, region change) are made; any backup made at this point (especially when finalizing setup is automated and thus cannot end up in a scenario where a user accidentally ends up without a nand backup) would effectively be as clean as pre-b9s

For a dev console I would agree with backing up first, but this guide doesn't cover dev units

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mariomadproductions avatar mariomadproductions commented on May 26, 2024

IMO, its a good thing to do for retail too, not just dev units. Sometimes factory apps are found, or maybe the owner might want to restore it to pre-hacked state before reselling, and just for preserving the original state in general. But I guess it should be an optional thing, yeah.

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mariomadproductions avatar mariomadproductions commented on May 26, 2024

Yeah I understand the need to keep it as simple as possible.

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