Word lists: verba delenda about hyphen-la HOT 24 CLOSED

I could not find the word absiet in any dictionary and I don't see how it can be derived from any word I found. If there is no explanation for this form, it should be removed from the word lists.

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According to the general rules of the Latin third declension, the genitive plural of adeps/adipis is adipum. None of the dictionaries I consulted mentions the irregular form adipium. If there is no proof for this form, it should be deleted or changed to adipum.

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The following words are not present in the common dictionaries and it is possibly better to remove them:

• adinspiratio
• ambitextus
• circumaspersus

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I agree with your 3 first requests, I will clean up the wordlist. For adipium, I think it's a typing error, it should be adipum, you're right.

For adinspiratio, ambitextus and circumaspersus, I found them in Goelzer, they should not be deleted.

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I think the following forms from the word list do not exist. They should rather be spelled transibamini etc.

• transebamini
• transebamur
• transebantur
• transebaris
• transebar
• transebere
• transeberis
• transebimini
• transebimur
• transebor
• transebuntur
• transemini
• transemur
• transendus
• transentor
• transentur
• transeremini
• transeremur
• transerentur
• transerer
• transetor

Furthermore, I have no explanation for the following form:

• transillit

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The following letter pairs are no Latin words. It is unclear, why they appear in the test list.

• aa
• ya
• ye
• yi
• yu
• yy

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They come from the initial diphthong file to guarantee the break between these letters whatever the situation. It is clear that they are not Latin words and there is no reason to keep them in the other files based on this list. But here I think we can keep them again.

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Furthermore, I have no explanation for the following form:

* transillit

Neither me, I think it's a copy error which can be deleted.

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The following words are not present in any dictionary I consulted. It is perhaps better to remove them.

• asycron
• præexistimo
• præteragavi

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As far as I can see, the following forms do not exist:

• abstrasse, abstravi etc.
• abstrutus etc.
• catasceva (listed in the dictionaries as catasceua with u)

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I could not verify the following words beginning with super:

• superelativus
• superisset (might be a perfect form of super-eo, but the dictionaries give no perfect of this word)
• superiungo
• supernumero
• superoperor (perhaps a misspelling of super-operior, passive of super-operio)
• superora, superore, superorem etc. (misspelling of superior)

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I think the following forms from the word list do not exist. They should rather be spelled transibamini etc.
- transebamini
- transebamur
- transebantur
- …

I found a French-speaking grammar on archive.org, showing an inflection scheme of the passive forms of the compounds of ire. This scheme is in accordance with the rule I found in a German-speaking grammar.

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As far as I can see, there is no proof for a perfect form of super-eo. So super-ii and super-ivi may be removed from the word lists.
Furthermore, I could nowhere find the word suprastruo. I suggest to remove this as well.

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The following forms cannot derive from per-eo or per-jero or any other verb. I think they are typing errors that should be deleted or corrected.

• perieim
• perieimus
• perieint
• perieis
• perieit
• perieitis
• perieo
• perieunt

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proditus is a mere participle of prodo. It is not used as an adjective with comparative or superlative forms (according to ThLL).
So the following forms should be deleted:

• proditior
• proditiora
• proditiore
• proditiorem
• proditiores
• proditiori
• proditioribus
• proditioris
• proditissimus (with inflected forms)

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obœdio is an intransitive verb, which means that it can have no passive forms except impersonal ones. The following forms are not necessary and may be removed from the word lists:

• obœdiamini
• obœdiamur
• obœdiantur
• obœdiar
• obœdiare
• obœdiaris
• obœdiebamini
• obœdiebamur
• obœdiebantur
• obœdiebar
• obœdiebare
• obœdiebaris
• obœdiemini
• obœdiemur
• obœdientur
• obœdiere
• obœdieris
• obœdimini
• obœdimur
• obœdior
• obœdiremini
• obœdiremur
• obœdirentur
• obœdirer
• obœdirere
• obœdireris
• obœdiri
• obœdiris
• obœdiuntur

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According to the Gaffiot, abstare is an intransitive verb; so there should be no passive forms except impersonal ones (third person singular).
The following words should be removed from the word lists:

* abstemini

* abstentur

* abster

* abstere

* absteris

Some supplements:

• abstabamini
• abstabamur
• abstabantur
• abstabar
• abstabare
• abstabaris
• abstabere
• abstaberis
• abstabimini
• abstabimur
• abstabor
• abstabuntur
• abstamini
• abstamur
• abstaremini
• abstaremur
• abstarentur
• abstarer
• abstarere
• abstareris
• abstari
• abstaris
• abstator
• abstemur
• abstor

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I propose to remove the following forms from the word lists:

• Aposcopevon: is written with u in all dictionaries I consulted: aposcopeuon.
• aspharagos: is not present in any dictionary I consulted.
• Cœlesyriæ and Cœlesyriam: as far as I can see from different dictionaries, Coele Syria is always written in two words.
• fœteris: theoretically, this is a passive form of fœteo, which is however intransitive, which means that it can have only impersonal passive forms.
• intericunto: obviously a misspelling of intericiunto.
• perieam, perieas, perieat, perieamus, perieatis, perieant: possibly misspellings of the subjunctive forms of per-eo, which should be peream, pereas etc.
• posfuturus and declensed forms: an imaginary future participle of possum.
• præposfuturus: also imaginary from præpossum.
• prodiciius: probably a misspelling of prodicius.
• sagestrum: probably a misspelling of segestrum, alternative of segestre.
• subie: possibly a wrong vocative of subium or a wrong form of sub-eo.
• superaffero, superaffluo: These verbs are not present in any dictionary I consulted.

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I think the following forms from the word list do not exist. They should rather be spelled transibamini etc.

It's done.

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I could not verify the following words beginning with super:

* superelativus

* superisset (might be a perfect form of _super-eo_, but the dictionaries give no perfect of this word)

* superiungo

* supernumero

* superoperor (perhaps a misspelling of _super-operior_, passive of _super-operio_)

* superora, superore, superorem etc. (misspelling of _superior_)

These words come from Goelzer, except for superisset and superora etc.

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The following words are not present in any dictionary I consulted. It is perhaps better to remove them.

* asycron

* præexistimo

* præteragavi

Ok for præteragavi, but not for præexistimo which can be found in Goelzer. Where did you see asycron? There is a ascyron in the list, which can also be found in Goelzer.

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Partly because I had to put the work on hold, I find that this issue is not easy to follow, there are too many different topics. With separate issues, it would be easier to navigate in the different tasks after a period of absence (which may be my case ...). I would be in favor of opening issues by prefix that can gather together the neighboring words. It's the same for #38.

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OK, you are right. I will close the two long issues and open new ones for all remaining problems.

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Ok for præteragavi, but not for præexistimo which can be found in Goelzer. Where did you see asycron? There is a ascyron in the list, which can also be found in Goelzer.

asycron was a reading error of mine.

It is clear, that a word that can be found in any dictionary shall not be removed. To be sure, I report all words not occuring in the dictionaries to which I have access. I always appreciate your comments.

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