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calebschoepp avatar calebschoepp commented on June 11, 2024 2

Trigger observability seems like the most tractable and immediately problem so I'm going to get started on a SIP for how we could implement it.

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calebschoepp avatar calebschoepp commented on June 11, 2024 1

Here is an example of what a trace might look when levels 2 through 4 are combined.

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agardnerIT avatar agardnerIT commented on June 11, 2024 1

As someone with Observability experience and a CNCF ambassador, please LMK if I can assist here. I am happy to act in a vendor-neutral consultant role.

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macolso avatar macolso commented on June 11, 2024

Question for my own understanding: is CPU / memory utilization considered a runtime or guest metric? For example, Azure Application Insights emits a metric called Process CPU, which shows how much of the total processor capacity is consumed by the process that is hosting your monitored app. I would consider Application Insights a tool for guest observability so this seems like a grey area.

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calebschoepp avatar calebschoepp commented on June 11, 2024

Question for my own understanding: is CPU / memory utilization considered a runtime or guest metric? For example, Azure Application Insights emits a metric called Process CPU, which shows how much of the total processor capacity is consumed by the process that is hosting your monitored app. I would consider Application Insights a tool for guest observability so this seems like a grey area.

I suppose it could be considered both. We might want to emit CPU/Memory utilization from the trigger observability i.e. how much CPU/Memory did an invocation of an app use. This would be considered guest metrics. Someone could also use an agent on the node to collect the CPU/Memory utilization of Spin itself and this would be a runtime metric.

I'm not really sure if this answers your question though because your question seems specific to the semantics of App Insights which I'm not really familiar with.

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calebschoepp avatar calebschoepp commented on June 11, 2024

@rylev had a good suggestion that we should make sure to clearly document our patterns around spans e.g. how do we name them, what metadata do they have, when should we emit them. That way the traces that get created can be more consistent and useful.

https://github.com/open-telemetry/opentelemetry-specification/blob/v1.26.0/specification/trace/api.md#span

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calebschoepp avatar calebschoepp commented on June 11, 2024

Seeing as this is a meta-issue tracking a lot of work I'm wondering if it shouldn't be set in progress. @vdice what do you think?

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vdice avatar vdice commented on June 11, 2024

@calebschoepp 👍 Sounds good. Thanks!

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lann avatar lann commented on June 11, 2024

@agardnerIT Thanks! The most recent work in progress is at #2398 if you are interested in following.

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