What's the state of the Elm repo? about compiler HOT 9 CLOSED

Sadly Evan is the ultimate Sigma male. He projects as a real leader only to completely reverse position and mumble "I duh wan it" like Jon Snow when actual responsibility emerges from his creations.

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As a follow up from talking on Slack with the community.

Progress has been made, just privately by Evan. He has done amazing things, yet they aren't ready for publishing yet. They will be somewhere soon ready, and a big release will be done.

The decision model of the language is following a BDFL, rather than the community. I was pointed to Gren (https://gren-lang.org/) , an Elm fork that has a different decision model.

Also, I want to give a huge kudos to Evan and all the effort he takes to keep Elm awesome, my concern wasn't about putting more pressure on Evan, but rather to express my desire to remove it by opening the development model a bit.

Thanks to everyone involved in the discussion!  ❤️

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I still avoid Elm for any project larger than simple practicing projects to learn the concept and functional programming in general.

Elm is great, but the lack of progress and informations keeps me from using Elm.

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See discussion here: https://discourse.elm-lang.org/t/how-was-the-elm-goto-talk/9150/9

Yeah wow, can't wait to start using another thing that will have radio silence on fixing the most trivial of bugs.

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He's been ignoring the simplest of bug reports and fix PRs for years, without the slightest apparent interest in users not getting impacted by those bugs. I'd think twice before adopting anything from Evan ever again.

Gren is not an alternative to Elm for me, the syntax is so different it doesn't really matter it's a fork.

Elm is free software though - anyone is free to fork the compiler. That's what the elm-janitor project is doing, quite conservatively. They call their fork a "release branch" of the compiler, keeping compatibility, just fixing the bugs.

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@lue-bird yes it seems I was confusing it with another language. I did know however about the lack of tuples and I do rely on them quite often, so that's an inconvenience. In any case, a language is more than just syntax - it's the ecosystem that develops around it that matters. Evan did get some things right that sparked the community to life, but his long standing blockading of getting bugs fixed is destroying it.

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@ggPeti gren's syntax is identical to elm, with tuples removed and record patterns added. Maybe you are thinking of roc, stabel (which both aren't forks AFAIK) or some other language?

At any rate, yes, gren plans to become an independent language from elm with no promises of compatibility so you`re right in that way.

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Thanks for reporting this! To set expectations:

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Finally, please be patient with the core team. They are trying their best with limited resources.

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See discussion here: https://discourse.elm-lang.org/t/how-was-the-elm-goto-talk/9150/9

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