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IMHO, we need to introduce sub domains, like losangeles.datasaturdays.com that will go the https://www.sqlsaturday.com/978 (current/latest event). this way the organizers have one permanent link to share.
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I like the non numeric hashtags too, especially since events repeat, so I would use the same hashtag for the same event year after year
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I like @amtwo s comment on both. A vanity for the current event and the number for historical purposes. This would mean that while the event is the most recent, both of these urls would point to the same content:
datasaturdays.com/pordeone
datasaturdays.com/0001
In 2021, if there is a new event, then these would point to the same content
datasaturdays.com/pordeone
datasaturdays.com/0101
while datasaturdays.com/0001 would still exist as a historical reference.
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An idea could be just to use MonthYear like:
- #DataSatLisbon0521
(#DataSat122) - #DataSatLisbon1121
(#DataSat123) - #DataSatParma1121
(#DataSat124) - #DataSatSlovenia1221
(#DataSat125)
I think that this is self-explanatory. Yes, you lose the milestone, but you can always use a sequence for all the events. In most of cases, you can omit the month part and, optionally also the year part, depending on how we would like to get:
Option 1: #DataSatSlovenia
Option 2: #DataSatSlovenia21
If we would like to have a standard unique way, we could use #DataSatCityMMYY.
Just my two cents.
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This would solve another problem with the old urls; when searching for e.g. "SQL Saturday Lisbon" it was invariably the previous years' events that came up first in the search results as they had more inbound links.
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Re: domains, I do not want to manage subdomains, and I suspect no one else desires this task. I could envision
datasaturdays.com/xxxx
datasaturdays.com/yyyy
datasaturdays.com/zzzz
where [xxxx|yyyy|zzzz] could be a name of a city or number.
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Opening up for multiple events per year is good, flexibility is great.
Another option could be to number only per city/site - but then you would miss the milestones.
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As hashtags are becoming unique less often, this is a good suggestion and to remember, whatever comes up first for numbering and alphabet wins in the auto-populate... :)
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This would solve another problem with the old urls; when searching for e.g. "SQL Saturday Lisbon" it was invariably the previous years' events that came up first in the search results as they had more inbound links.
I think the year should be part of the tag.
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IMHO, we need to introduce sub domains, like losangeles.datasaturdays.com that will go the https://www.sqlsaturday.com/978 (current/latest event). this way the organizers have one permanent link to share.
While in principle I like the idea of subdomains, they do introduce a level of management and cost overhead. Unless a wildcart certificate is obtained for the parent domain, or potentially multiple root domains there covering all the subdomains can become costly. I think a similar concept could be accomplished by having a branch off the main site, (ex: datasaturdays.com/losangeles) that would link to all of the events for the city. That would allow a single certificate per parent domain to cover and not require any administrative changes when a new city event is requested.
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To support the first few events, we are restarting numbering at 0001. These may be exceptions, so do not take these as any suggestion or requirement from the organizers that we continue with this schema.
The discussion above will need to resolve into some sort of naming/numbering.
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If we continue the route of github pages, some Jekyll templates offer the possibility of supporting an "event" breakdown by "front matter" which is defined by a YAML template that starts the beginning of each markdown post located in the _posts directory. If we utilize the predefined variables for posts which include categories, tags and date we could create a pretty effective structure that would allow us to build out an event page archive quickly and easily.
https://jekyllrb.com/docs/front-matter/
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Jekyll is something we've talked about. I don't know if static pages are sustainable long term, as more tooling is likely needed, but this isn't a bad idea.
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Why not both?!
- Sequence numbering provides certain benefits, as does name-based numbering.
- The concern with managing different sub domains is justified.
- Permalinks to past events are valuable, particularly for MVPs who need to track our community contributions and need to ensure the event page is accessible for up to 15 months post-event.
It would probably be easier to manage a scheme where UG organizers who are hosting a local event get a "vanity address" url like https://datasaturdays.com/bostonsql
which is simply a 301 redirect to the numeric permalink. When a UG spins up a new event, part of the PR can be to update the 301 on the "vanity address" to the new permalink. The vanity address would always be the most recent event, allowing the UG to print the URL on physical items for use at in-person events.
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I bought sqlsatnash.com and forward it to the current event, had planned on a static page for in the off season. It was the best $15 ever spent as I don't have to update documents, email templates or tweets. I've also stuck with #sqlsatnash and really use the actual event number rarely, but it is on the pint glasses. Unless I am told I can't use these I will more than likely stick with our logo and these and just use forwarding to where ever we land.
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@tameraclark I suspect your ability to actively use "SQLSat" going forward is going to be impacted by how the SQLSaturday brand is sold, and who buys it. Your ability to use "SQLSat" is covered under the license agreement with PASS that you sign for each event. If someone were to purchase the SQLSaturday brand and wants to defend their trademark, you'd be at risk of being sued by the new trademark holder.
Unfortunately, we don't know exactly what SQLSat assets are being sold, and we won't know who the new owner is until the sale is complete. Continuing to forward the domain to a new home will be no big deal--but continuing to advertise with it & use it on materials could be an issue. I'm not a lawyer, and this isn't legal advice--but if you want to use that going forward on any materials you might want to ask a lawyer about it.
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