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Perlover avatar Perlover commented on May 28, 2024 1

@kingonly Thanks! I got refund and already sent this to my other segwit address.

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kingonly avatar kingonly commented on May 28, 2024

Hi there,

The funds added through the Submarine Swaps address is not transferred to the underlined wallet, but to the your end of the channel.
In cases the Submarine Swap ln tx fails or you sent more funds than the limit, you will be able to redeem your funds after 24 hours.
If you want us to help debug what happened in your case, suggest we move this to DM via Twitter or mail since we'll need to get the tx information and maybe logs from the product.

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Perlover avatar Perlover commented on May 28, 2024

Thanks for answer. Now the transaction has 78 confirmations. Ok, i will wait 144 confirmations.

But it's way is very strange for user experience... You have the lnd inside and lnd has wallet inside but you generates address for swap....

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kingonly avatar kingonly commented on May 28, 2024

Thanks for the feedback. We understand it's an unorthodox approach.
Breez is designed ad a Lightning-only client, that's the reason we use Submarine Swaps. We think removing the need to manage a bitcoin wallet simplifies UX.
The underlined wallet is only used in case of the user is closing the channel.

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Perlover avatar Perlover commented on May 28, 2024

I understand your concept.
In your wallet i can have only channel through your node. You created inbound channel to me by auto. And i cannot create myself channel. For funding i should use Submarine Swap so when i will be funded your lightning fees will be applied...

So you want to be like "bank" and you want to chain your users to yourself. All payments through your node, in & out payments through your node with your fees.

I will recommend your wallet to nobody.

Good luck!

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Perlover avatar Perlover commented on May 28, 2024

user is closing the channel.

How can i close channel?
I don't see same option. I see only "Remove funds" but there are again Submarine Swaps

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kingonly avatar kingonly commented on May 28, 2024

Not at all what we want to accomplish...
We're thinking of ways to improve UX without compromising security and privacy.
That's why we expose all of lnd functionality (including opening and closing channels) in our developer screen.
In the very near feature we will allow users to choose their hub...
It's ridiculous to think we want to make money of ln tx fees. On the contrary, we put money in creating channels and executing on-chain tx via Submarine Swaps.

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Perlover avatar Perlover commented on May 28, 2024

In cases the Submarine Swap ln tx fails or you sent more funds than the limit, you will be able to redeem your funds after 24 hours.

I saw log file of Breez
Yes, there was reached limit (i didn't know about this)

rpc error: code = Internal desc = payment request amount: 2438788 is greater than max allowed: 497217

So when 144 confirmations will be passed what will be next?

I sent bitcoins from Electrum wallet to Breez. I will get there back (to Eclair)? Or i will get them into on-chain wallet of Breez? How will the redeem process take place?

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kingonly avatar kingonly commented on May 28, 2024

You will see a 'Refund' menu item and you will able to transfer the funds to any address you choose.
BTW, the limit is specified in the add funds screen, maybe we need to a better job in exposing it.

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