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breakds avatar breakds commented on June 3, 2024

Hi Alexandre,

Yep. That's something that simplifies the process of job management.

Regards,
-Break

Is it anything to do with http://research.cs.wisc.edu/condor/?

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arademaker avatar arademaker commented on June 3, 2024

Nice. Back in 2008, I developed a web interface for start and control Condor Job when I was doing an internship at MS Research… At that time, I wasn't a Lisp programmer and used a set of MS tools.

Another idea that I was thinking recently is how to distribute in Condor Lisp Jobs. Condor has a "Java Universe", http://research.cs.wisc.edu/condor/manual/v7.8/2_8Java_Applications.html.

It would be interesting to provide an Lisp Universe for Condor!! What you think about it?

Best,
Alexandre

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Hi Alexandre,

Yep. That's something that simplifies the process of job management.

Regards,
-Break

Is it anything to do with http://research.cs.wisc.edu/condor/?

Alexandre


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breakds avatar breakds commented on June 3, 2024

Yep, I don't really like the original condor interface either, that's why
I started to work on this for my next research project, which will use
condor intensively.

I like that lisp universe idea! How often do you use condor in your
work/research and how often do you use lisp?

I don't really count myself as a "Lisp programmer" though since I don't
have much experience on lisp software development. To me this
condor-server is a practice on development with lisp :)

Nice. Back in 2008, I developed a web interface for start and control
Condor Job when I was doing an internship at MS Research… At that time,
I wasn't a Lisp programmer and used a set of MS tools.

Another idea that I was thinking recently is how to distribute in Condor
Lisp Jobs. Condor has a "Java Universe",
http://research.cs.wisc.edu/condor/manual/v7.8/2_8Java_Applications.html.

It would be interesting to provide an Lisp Universe for Condor!! What you
think about it?

Best,
Alexandre

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Hi Alexandre,

Yep. That's something that simplifies the process of job management.

Regards,
-Break

Is it anything to do with http://research.cs.wisc.edu/condor/?

Alexandre


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arademaker avatar arademaker commented on June 3, 2024

Well, I am planning to use Condor again soon... Actually, I already have some problems that could be executed in Condor environment but the code is in Lisp and the available machines to install Condor are Windows machines. My machine is a MacOS... One ideia is to compile the lisp code into an executable to run it. Another ideia is to develop the lisp universe... I haven't have time to work on it. It is in my TODO list... ;-)

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breakds avatar breakds commented on June 3, 2024

That sounds great to me! Our group uses c++ and matlab for research
projects which are well supported by the current version of condor.
Since no one is using lisp for research projects, the condor team does
not have enough incentive to do this, which in turn discourage me to
write lisp program to run on condor. Though, we can run lisp in condor
as scripts, sacrificing the performance ... but who would use condor if
he doesn't pursue performance ...

The compilation approach is not that flexible -- it is platform
dependent. Having the executable nodes compile the program themselves is
another idea, but I am not sure whether it's the same as developing the
lisp universe. I look forward to seeing this work done. I don't think I
have the experience/strength/time to work on this now, but I would like
to have a try when it's possible.

Thank you very much for sharing the idea :)

Best Regards,
-Break
On 06/25/2012 09:04 PM, Alexandre Rademaker wrote:

Well, I am planning to use Condor again soon... Actually, I already have some problems that could be executed in Condor environment but the code is in Lisp and the available machines to install Condor are Windows machines. My machine is a MacOS... One ideia is to compile the lisp code into an executable to run it. Another ideia is to develop the lisp universe... I haven't have time to work on it. It is in my TODO list... ;-)


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arademaker avatar arademaker commented on June 3, 2024

Another possibility is to use ABCL and the JAVA universe. I will probably start with that approach and see if I can learn how to develop an universe.

Best,
Alexandre

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breakds avatar breakds commented on June 3, 2024

I am looking forward to seeing that done :)
On 06/26/2012 01:14 PM, Alexandre Rademaker wrote:

Another possibility is to use ABCL and the JAVA universe. I will probably start with that approach and see if I can learn how to develop an universe.

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Alexandre


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breakds avatar breakds commented on June 3, 2024

Having a lisp universe on condor has another benefit, we can then do
this much easier:

sending function calls as jobs to condor so that we can directly do
multiprocessing call in our code without even knowing there is a condor
behind ...
On 06/26/2012 01:14 PM, Alexandre Rademaker wrote:

Another possibility is to use ABCL and the JAVA universe. I will probably start with that approach and see if I can learn how to develop an universe.

Best,
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