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sugaarK avatar sugaarK commented on August 22, 2024 1

just had a look @ApolloBian... make some new logs with full stick inputs left to right in increasing speed..
make the ff smoothing 45 and turn off the averaging.. its over smoothed and over averaged right now

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limonspb avatar limonspb commented on August 22, 2024

Hey!

Could you please apply your settings, take props off (or don't even power the motors) and do the following, recording blackbox:

Can be desk logs with smooth stick moves, sinusoidal like, start slow, like 0.5hz, get faster and faster. I stay inside one half of the range and avoid hitting centre or limits.
Then some ‘imaginary’ flips or rolls. and some ‘pretend flying’.
log to the debug ff_interpolated = feedforward.

After that plz share your blackbox here. Maybe there are some parameters to tweak.
Thanks!

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Fumes74 avatar Fumes74 commented on August 22, 2024

logs.zip

I have done the requested exercise above.

RM TX16S - EDGETX 2.6 - Max bauds 1.87M - ADC filter off
ELRS 2.3 - 900MHz / 200HZ on R9M TX and R9MM RX
BF 4.3 RC3 - logged debug to FEEDFORWARD

All logs are on bench with motors off so i don't know really how well the logs actually compares to a real flight.
I could probably do more testing if these logs does not meet the expectations.

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limonspb avatar limonspb commented on August 22, 2024

logs.zip

I have done the requested exercise above.

RM TX16S - EDGETX 2.6 - Max bauds 1.87M - ADC filter off ELRS 2.3 - 900MHz / 200HZ on R9M TX and R9MM RX BF 4.3 RC3 - logged debug to FEEDFORWARD

All logs are on bench with motors off so i don't know really how well the logs actually compares to a real flight. I could probably do more testing if these logs does not meet the expectations.

Thank you Sir!
@ctzsnooze @spatzengr @sugaarK could you please have a look?

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ApolloBian avatar ApolloBian commented on August 22, 2024

@limonspb sorry for the delay, here is my test results:
LOG038.TXT

Also, @Fumes74 thank you

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ApolloBian avatar ApolloBian commented on August 22, 2024

@sugaarK
LOG040.TXT
feedforward_averaging = OFF, feedforward_smooth_factor = 45 as suggested

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sugaarK avatar sugaarK commented on August 22, 2024

ok so it needs averaging but you need to put the boost back to 15 and leave the jitter at stock.. to make a preset things kinda need to start from stock not from settings that are effecting the situation. if you can do that then we can try another log.. bench testing is fine

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limonspb avatar limonspb commented on August 22, 2024

@ApolloBian :)

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ApolloBian avatar ApolloBian commented on August 22, 2024

Hey boys, I've been out on a business trip(Didn't bring quads with me). Due to quarantine I cannot provide any feedbacks recently, sorry for that :-(

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limonspb avatar limonspb commented on August 22, 2024

Hey boys, I've been out on a business trip(Didn't bring quads with me). Due to quarantine I cannot provide any feedbacks recently, sorry for that :-(

No worries.
Whenever you got time. Or maybe @Fumes74 can follow up :)

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Fumes74 avatar Fumes74 commented on August 22, 2024

@limonspb @sugaarK
Can I have the settings that you want pasted here, so that i have exactly right prerequisites?
Then it should be no problem for me to do some testing.

The stick input can be from one stick only and full deflection left to right?

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sugaarK avatar sugaarK commented on August 22, 2024

Surr thing I can tell you now or wait until I finish work for a cli snippet..

Start with stock FF and rc settings.
Then we want ff smoothing set to 45 and averaging set to 2_point.. also test ff smoo set to 35. One stick it fine say just roll. I like to do full left to right movements that start fast and get slower and slower

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sugaarK avatar sugaarK commented on August 22, 2024

try this.. make sure the other rc settings are STOCK.. @ApolloBian's logs were not with stock settings so hard to get a good gauge..

roll stick inputs is fine...

set feedforward_averaging = 2_POINT
set feedforward_smooth_factor = 45

and try

set feedforward_averaging = 2_POINT
set feedforward_smooth_factor = 35

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Fumes74 avatar Fumes74 commented on August 22, 2024

logs.zip
Thank you.
I have made the exercise above.
Attached are 3 logs with appropriate naming.

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Fumes74 avatar Fumes74 commented on August 22, 2024

@limonspb @limonspb
Did the logs work out or do we need more?

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limonspb avatar limonspb commented on August 22, 2024

@limonspb @limonspb Did the logs work out or do we need more?

sorry for the delay.
I am not very familiar with these settings, trying to poke @sugaarK as much as i can

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sugaarK avatar sugaarK commented on August 22, 2024

35 looks good but you still have the boost 30% lower than stock it should be 15.. so at slower stick inputs your not getting much ff.. I think the settings are solid though.... if you wana put up the ff boost to 15 and try the 2 tests again.. its looking though as I said too @limonspb privately much the same as 250hz...

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limonspb avatar limonspb commented on August 22, 2024

250Hz preset works good with 200Hz link.

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